2022-04-16 00:24:19

by Nick Desaulniers

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Subject: Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:50 AM Qing Zhao <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Nick,
>
> > On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> > Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> > Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> > this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
> >
> > Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> > kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
> > plumbers this year which will be in person?
>
> I’d love to attend plumbers this year to meet people in person!
> But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor
> Improvements to the previous work.

No worries; it doesn't need to be a presentation, or just one person
presenting. I think a quick review of newly developed features from
various authors, then a discussion with consumers (kernel developers)
would be beneficial.
--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers


2022-04-16 00:38:59

by Qing Zhao

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Subject: Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session



> On Apr 15, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:50 AM Qing Zhao <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Nick,
>>
>>> On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
>>> Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
>>> Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
>>> this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
>>>
>>> Would you all be interested in leading another session on
>>> kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
>>> plumbers this year which will be in person?
>>
>> I’d love to attend plumbers this year to meet people in person!
>> But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor
>> Improvements to the previous work.
>
> No worries; it doesn't need to be a presentation, or just one person
> presenting. I think a quick review of newly developed features from
> various authors, then a discussion with consumers (kernel developers)
> would be beneficial.

Sounds good to me.

Qing
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers

2022-04-16 01:47:01

by Kees Cook

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Subject: Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:17:46AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:50 AM Qing Zhao <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Nick,
> >
> > > On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> > > Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> > > Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> > > this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
> > >
> > > Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> > > kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
> > > plumbers this year which will be in person?
> >
> > I’d love to attend plumbers this year to meet people in person!
> > But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor
> > Improvements to the previous work.
>
> No worries; it doesn't need to be a presentation, or just one person
> presenting. I think a quick review of newly developed features from
> various authors, then a discussion with consumers (kernel developers)
> would be beneficial.

Yeah, this kind of overview is what I've been doing the last few years
(with Qing last year):

https://outflux.net/slides/2021/lpc/compiler-security-features.pdf
https://outflux.net/slides/2020/lpc/gcc-and-clang-security-feature-parity.pdf
https://outflux.net/slides/2019/lpc/gcc-and-clang.pdf

--
Kees Cook