2020-05-12 07:36:55

by Joakim Zhang

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Subject: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

The DDR Perf for i.MX8 is a system PMU whose axi id would different from
SoC to SoC. Need expose system PMU identifier for userspace which refer
to /sys/bus/event_source/devices/<PMU DEVICE>/identifier.

Reviewed-by: John Garry <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Joakim Zhang <[email protected]>
---
drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c | 45 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c b/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
index 95dca2cb5265..88addbffbbd0 100644
--- a/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
+++ b/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
@@ -50,21 +50,38 @@ static DEFINE_IDA(ddr_ida);

struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data {
unsigned int quirks; /* quirks needed for different DDR Perf core */
+ const char *identifier; /* system PMU identifier for userspace */
};

-static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8_devtype_data;
+static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8_devtype_data = {
+ .identifier = "i.MX8",
+};
+
+static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mq_devtype_data = {
+ .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
+ .identifier = "i.MX8MQ",
+};
+
+static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mm_devtype_data = {
+ .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
+ .identifier = "i.MX8MM",
+};

-static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8m_devtype_data = {
+static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mn_devtype_data = {
.quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
+ .identifier = "i.MX8MN",
};

static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mp_devtype_data = {
.quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER_ENHANCED,
+ .identifier = "i.MX8MP",
};

static const struct of_device_id imx_ddr_pmu_dt_ids[] = {
{ .compatible = "fsl,imx8-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8_devtype_data},
- { .compatible = "fsl,imx8m-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8m_devtype_data},
+ { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mq-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mq_devtype_data},
+ { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mm-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mm_devtype_data},
+ { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mn-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mn_devtype_data},
{ .compatible = "fsl,imx8mp-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mp_devtype_data},
{ /* sentinel */ }
};
@@ -84,6 +101,27 @@ struct ddr_pmu {
int id;
};

+static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
+ struct device_attribute *attr,
+ char *page)
+{
+ struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
+
+ return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
+}
+
+static struct device_attribute ddr_perf_identifier_attr =
+ __ATTR(identifier, 0444, ddr_perf_identifier_show, NULL);
+
+static struct attribute *ddr_perf_identifier_attrs[] = {
+ &ddr_perf_identifier_attr.attr,
+ NULL,
+};
+
+static struct attribute_group ddr_perf_identifier_attr_group = {
+ .attrs = ddr_perf_identifier_attrs,
+};
+
enum ddr_perf_filter_capabilities {
PERF_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER = 0,
PERF_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER_ENHANCED,
@@ -237,6 +275,7 @@ static const struct attribute_group *attr_groups[] = {
&ddr_perf_format_attr_group,
&ddr_perf_cpumask_attr_group,
&ddr_perf_filter_cap_attr_group,
+ &ddr_perf_identifier_attr_group,
NULL,
};

--
2.17.1


2020-05-19 18:53:37

by Rob Herring (Arm)

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> The DDR Perf for i.MX8 is a system PMU whose axi id would different from
> SoC to SoC. Need expose system PMU identifier for userspace which refer
> to /sys/bus/event_source/devices/<PMU DEVICE>/identifier.

Why not just expose the AXI ID if that's what's different?

>
> Reviewed-by: John Garry <[email protected]>
> Signed-off-by: Joakim Zhang <[email protected]>
> ---
> drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c | 45 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c b/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> index 95dca2cb5265..88addbffbbd0 100644
> --- a/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> +++ b/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> @@ -50,21 +50,38 @@ static DEFINE_IDA(ddr_ida);
>
> struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data {
> unsigned int quirks; /* quirks needed for different DDR Perf core */
> + const char *identifier; /* system PMU identifier for userspace */
> };
>
> -static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8_devtype_data;
> +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8_devtype_data = {
> + .identifier = "i.MX8",
> +};
> +
> +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mq_devtype_data = {
> + .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
> + .identifier = "i.MX8MQ",
> +};
> +
> +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mm_devtype_data = {
> + .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
> + .identifier = "i.MX8MM",
> +};
>
> -static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8m_devtype_data = {
> +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mn_devtype_data = {
> .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
> + .identifier = "i.MX8MN",
> };
>
> static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mp_devtype_data = {
> .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER_ENHANCED,
> + .identifier = "i.MX8MP",
> };
>
> static const struct of_device_id imx_ddr_pmu_dt_ids[] = {
> { .compatible = "fsl,imx8-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8_devtype_data},
> - { .compatible = "fsl,imx8m-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8m_devtype_data},

You need to keep the old one for compatibility.

> + { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mq-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mq_devtype_data},
> + { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mm-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mm_devtype_data},
> + { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mn-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mn_devtype_data},
> { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mp-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mp_devtype_data},
> { /* sentinel */ }
> };
> @@ -84,6 +101,27 @@ struct ddr_pmu {
> int id;
> };
>
> +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
> + struct device_attribute *attr,
> + char *page)
> +{
> + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> +
> + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);

Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?

> +}
> +
> +static struct device_attribute ddr_perf_identifier_attr =
> + __ATTR(identifier, 0444, ddr_perf_identifier_show, NULL);

sysfs attributes are supposed to be documented.

> +
> +static struct attribute *ddr_perf_identifier_attrs[] = {
> + &ddr_perf_identifier_attr.attr,
> + NULL,
> +};
> +
> +static struct attribute_group ddr_perf_identifier_attr_group = {
> + .attrs = ddr_perf_identifier_attrs,
> +};
> +
> enum ddr_perf_filter_capabilities {
> PERF_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER = 0,
> PERF_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER_ENHANCED,
> @@ -237,6 +275,7 @@ static const struct attribute_group *attr_groups[] = {
> &ddr_perf_format_attr_group,
> &ddr_perf_cpumask_attr_group,
> &ddr_perf_filter_cap_attr_group,
> + &ddr_perf_identifier_attr_group,
> NULL,
> };
>
> --
> 2.17.1
>

2020-05-20 02:59:21

by Joakim Zhang

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Subject: RE: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Herring <[email protected]>
> Sent: 2020??5??20?? 2:51
> To: Joakim Zhang <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; dl-linux-imx <[email protected]>;
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier
> for userspace
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > The DDR Perf for i.MX8 is a system PMU whose axi id would different
> > from SoC to SoC. Need expose system PMU identifier for userspace which
> > refer to /sys/bus/event_source/devices/<PMU DEVICE>/identifier.
>
> Why not just expose the AXI ID if that's what's different?

Hi Rob,

Each master has their own AXI ID, such as USB, GPU, VPU etc, it is various from different SoCs. We want to add system PMU support in perf tool, so we want to expose something from perf driver to identify each SoC.
When we know which SoC it is, we can get each master AXI ID. If this patch can be accepted, /sys/bus/event_source/devices/<PMU DEVICE>/identifier could be a common interface for all system PMUs.

I will change to add a property to identify SoC, to see if it is better. Thanks.

Best Regards,
Joakim Zhang
> >
> > Reviewed-by: John Garry <[email protected]>
> > Signed-off-by: Joakim Zhang <[email protected]>
> > ---
> > drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c | 45
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > 1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> > b/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> > index 95dca2cb5265..88addbffbbd0 100644
> > --- a/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> > +++ b/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c
> > @@ -50,21 +50,38 @@ static DEFINE_IDA(ddr_ida);
> >
> > struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data {
> > unsigned int quirks; /* quirks needed for different DDR Perf core */
> > + const char *identifier; /* system PMU identifier for userspace */
> > };
> >
> > -static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8_devtype_data;
> > +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8_devtype_data = {
> > + .identifier = "i.MX8",
> > +};
> > +
> > +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mq_devtype_data = {
> > + .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
> > + .identifier = "i.MX8MQ",
> > +};
> > +
> > +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mm_devtype_data = {
> > + .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
> > + .identifier = "i.MX8MM",
> > +};
> >
> > -static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8m_devtype_data = {
> > +static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mn_devtype_data = {
> > .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER,
> > + .identifier = "i.MX8MN",
> > };
> >
> > static const struct fsl_ddr_devtype_data imx8mp_devtype_data = {
> > .quirks = DDR_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER_ENHANCED,
> > + .identifier = "i.MX8MP",
> > };
> >
> > static const struct of_device_id imx_ddr_pmu_dt_ids[] = {
> > { .compatible = "fsl,imx8-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8_devtype_data},
> > - { .compatible = "fsl,imx8m-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8m_devtype_data},
>
> You need to keep the old one for compatibility.
>
> > + { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mq-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mq_devtype_data},
> > + { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mm-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mm_devtype_data},
> > + { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mn-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mn_devtype_data},
> > { .compatible = "fsl,imx8mp-ddr-pmu", .data = &imx8mp_devtype_data},
> > { /* sentinel */ }
> > };
> > @@ -84,6 +101,27 @@ struct ddr_pmu {
> > int id;
> > };
> >
> > +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
> > + struct device_attribute *attr,
> > + char *page)
> > +{
> > + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> > +
> > + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
>
> Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?
>
> > +}
> > +
> > +static struct device_attribute ddr_perf_identifier_attr =
> > + __ATTR(identifier, 0444, ddr_perf_identifier_show, NULL);
>
> sysfs attributes are supposed to be documented.
>
> > +
> > +static struct attribute *ddr_perf_identifier_attrs[] = {
> > + &ddr_perf_identifier_attr.attr,
> > + NULL,
> > +};
> > +
> > +static struct attribute_group ddr_perf_identifier_attr_group = {
> > + .attrs = ddr_perf_identifier_attrs,
> > +};
> > +
> > enum ddr_perf_filter_capabilities {
> > PERF_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER = 0,
> > PERF_CAP_AXI_ID_FILTER_ENHANCED,
> > @@ -237,6 +275,7 @@ static const struct attribute_group *attr_groups[] = {
> > &ddr_perf_format_attr_group,
> > &ddr_perf_cpumask_attr_group,
> > &ddr_perf_filter_cap_attr_group,
> > + &ddr_perf_identifier_attr_group,
> > NULL,
> > };
> >
> > --
> > 2.17.1
> >

2020-05-20 07:35:08

by Will Deacon

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:51:25PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
> > + struct device_attribute *attr,
> > + char *page)
> > +{
> > + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> > +
> > + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
>
> Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?

I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
from userspace? It's needed so that the perf userspace tool can describe
perf events that are supported for the PMU, as this isn't probe-able
directly from the hardware. We have the same issue with the SMMUv3 PMCG [1],
and so we need to solve the problem for both DT and ACPI.

Will

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]

2020-05-20 15:12:14

by Rob Herring (Arm)

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:56 PM Joakim Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Herring <[email protected]>
> > Sent: 2020年5月20日 2:51
> > To: Joakim Zhang <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> > [email protected]; dl-linux-imx <[email protected]>;
> > [email protected]; [email protected];
> > [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier
> > for userspace
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > > The DDR Perf for i.MX8 is a system PMU whose axi id would different
> > > from SoC to SoC. Need expose system PMU identifier for userspace which
> > > refer to /sys/bus/event_source/devices/<PMU DEVICE>/identifier.
> >
> > Why not just expose the AXI ID if that's what's different?
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Each master has their own AXI ID, such as USB, GPU, VPU etc, it is various from different SoCs. We want to add system PMU support in perf tool, so we want to expose something from perf driver to identify each SoC.
> When we know which SoC it is, we can get each master AXI ID. If this patch can be accepted, /sys/bus/event_source/devices/<PMU DEVICE>/identifier could be a common interface for all system PMUs.
>
> I will change to add a property to identify SoC, to see if it is better. Thanks.

Isn't that what you have already with this patch? My point is you can
already read /proc/device-tree/compatible, read the PMU compatible, or
have an SoC device which exposes SoC info.

Rob

2020-05-20 15:25:45

by Rob Herring (Arm)

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 1:33 AM Will Deacon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:51:25PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > > +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
> > > + struct device_attribute *attr,
> > > + char *page)
> > > +{
> > > + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> > > +
> > > + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
> >
> > Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?
>
> I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
> from userspace?

/proc/cpuinfo? ;)

For an non-firmware specific case, I'd say soc_device should be. I'd
guess ACPI systems don't use it and for them it's dmidecode typically.
The other problem I have with soc_device is it is optional.

> It's needed so that the perf userspace tool can describe
> perf events that are supported for the PMU, as this isn't probe-able
> directly from the hardware. We have the same issue with the SMMUv3 PMCG [1],
> and so we need to solve the problem for both DT and ACPI.
>
> Will
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]

At a minimum, it seems like 'identifier' should be moved into the perf
core if that's an attr we want to keep.

Rob

2020-05-21 13:08:50

by Will Deacon

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 09:23:41AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 1:33 AM Will Deacon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:51:25PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > > > +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
> > > > + struct device_attribute *attr,
> > > > + char *page)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> > > > +
> > > > + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
> > >
> > > Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?
> >
> > I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
> > from userspace?
>
> /proc/cpuinfo? ;)

The *SoC*!

> For an non-firmware specific case, I'd say soc_device should be. I'd
> guess ACPI systems don't use it and for them it's dmidecode typically.
> The other problem I have with soc_device is it is optional.

John -- what do you think about using soc_device to expose this information,
with ACPI systems using DMI data instead?

Will

2020-05-21 13:28:52

by Mark Rutland

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 08:33:04AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:51:25PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > > +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
> > > + struct device_attribute *attr,
> > > + char *page)
> > > +{
> > > + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
> > > +
> > > + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
> >
> > Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?
>
> I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
> from userspace? It's needed so that the perf userspace tool can describe
> perf events that are supported for the PMU, as this isn't probe-able
> directly from the hardware. We have the same issue with the SMMUv3 PMCG [1],
> and so we need to solve the problem for both DT and ACPI.

Worth noting that while in this case it happens to identify the SoC,
in general you can have distinct instances of system IP in a single
system, so I do think that we need *something* instance-specific, even
if that's combined with SoC info.

Where IP gets reused across SoCs, it makes sense for that to not depend
on top-level SoC info.

Thanks,
Mark.

>
> Will
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]

2020-05-21 14:03:59

by John Garry

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On 21/05/2020 14:04, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 09:23:41AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 1:33 AM Will Deacon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:51:25PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
>>>>> +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
>>>>> + struct device_attribute *attr,
>>>>> + char *page)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>>> +
>>>>> + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
>>>>
>>>> Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?
>>>
>>> I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
>>> from userspace?
>>
>> /proc/cpuinfo? ;)
>
> The *SoC*!
>
>> For an non-firmware specific case, I'd say soc_device should be. I'd
>> guess ACPI systems don't use it and for them it's dmidecode typically.
>> The other problem I have with soc_device is it is optional.
>

Hi Will,

> John -- what do you think about using soc_device to expose this information,
> with ACPI systems using DMI data instead?

Generally I don't think that DMI is reliable, and I saw this as the
least preferred choice. I'm looking at the sysfs DMI info for my dev
board, and I don't even see anything like a SoC identifier.

As for the event_source device sysfs identifier file, it would not
always contain effectively the same as the SoC ID.

Certain PMUs which I'm interested in plan to have probe-able
identification info available in future.

Thanks,
John



2020-05-21 14:19:23

by John Garry

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

On 21/05/2020 14:26, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 08:33:04AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:51:25PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:31:13PM +0800, Joakim Zhang wrote:
>>>> +static ssize_t ddr_perf_identifier_show(struct device *dev,
>>>> + struct device_attribute *attr,
>>>> + char *page)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct ddr_pmu *pmu = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>> +
>>>> + return sprintf(page, "%s\n", pmu->devtype_data->identifier);
>>>
>>> Why do we need yet another way to identify the SoC from userspace?
>>
>> I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
>> from userspace? It's needed so that the perf userspace tool can describe
>> perf events that are supported for the PMU, as this isn't probe-able
>> directly from the hardware. We have the same issue with the SMMUv3 PMCG [1],
>> and so we need to solve the problem for both DT and ACPI.
>
> Worth noting that while in this case it happens to identify the SoC,
> in general you can have distinct instances of system IP in a single
> system, so I do think that we need *something* instance-specific, even
> if that's combined with SoC info.
>

Hi Mark,

> Where IP gets reused across SoCs, it makes sense for that to not depend
> on top-level SoC info.

This would be quite an uncommon case. Generally most instances of a
given PMU in a SoC would be identical implementations.

And anyway, we should be able to solve that problem in perf tool, as
long as the PMU device name is fixed. Like what we have for the SMMUv3
PMU, where the device name contains the device bus address, i.e don't
use idr for perf drivers device naming....

Thanks,
John

2020-05-27 18:26:19

by John Garry

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

>>>>
>>>> I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the
>>>> SoC
>>>> from userspace?
>>>
>>> /proc/cpuinfo? ;)
>>
>> The *SoC*!
>>
>>> For an non-firmware specific case, I'd say soc_device should be. I'd
>>> guess ACPI systems don't use it and for them it's dmidecode typically.
>>> The other problem I have with soc_device is it is optional.
>>
>
> Hi Will,
>
>> John -- what do you think about using soc_device to expose this
>> information,
>> with ACPI systems using DMI data instead?
>
> Generally I don't think that DMI is reliable, and I saw this as the
> least preferred choice. I'm looking at the sysfs DMI info for my dev
> board, and I don't even see anything like a SoC identifier.
>
> As for the event_source device sysfs identifier file, it would not
> always contain effectively the same as the SoC ID.
>
> Certain PMUs which I'm interested in plan to have probe-able
> identification info available in future.
>

BTW, Shaokun now tells me that the HiSi uncore PMU HW have such
registers to identify the implementation. I didn't know.

So we could add that identifier file for those PMUs as proof-of-concept,
exposing that register.

As for other PMUs which I'm interested in, again, future versions should
have such registers to self-identify.

So using something derived from the DT compat string would hopefully be
the uncommon case.

Cheers,
John

2020-05-28 01:39:25

by Zhangshaokun

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 RESEND 1/3] perf/imx_ddr: Add system PMU identifier for userspace

Hi,

On 2020/5/27 22:34, John Garry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I also really dislike this. What's the preferred way to identify the SoC
>>>>> from userspace?
>>>>
>>>> /proc/cpuinfo? ;)
>>>
>>> The *SoC*!
>>>
>>>> For an non-firmware specific case, I'd say soc_device should be. I'd
>>>> guess ACPI systems don't use it and for them it's dmidecode typically.
>>>> The other problem I have with soc_device is it is optional.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Will,
>>
>>> John -- what do you think about using soc_device to expose this information,
>>> with ACPI systems using DMI data instead?
>>
>> Generally I don't think that DMI is reliable, and I saw this as the least preferred choice. I'm looking at the sysfs DMI info for my dev board, and I don't even see anything like a SoC identifier.
>>
>> As for the event_source device sysfs identifier file, it would not always contain effectively the same as the SoC ID.
>>
>> Certain PMUs which I'm interested in plan to have probe-able identification info available in future.
>>
>
> BTW, Shaokun now tells me that the HiSi uncore PMU HW have such registers to identify the implementation. I didn't know.
>

Right, we have this register which shows the PMU version.

Thanks,
Shaokun


> So we could add that identifier file for those PMUs as proof-of-concept, exposing that register.
>
> As for other PMUs which I'm interested in, again, future versions should have such registers to self-identify.
>
> So using something derived from the DT compat string would hopefully be the uncommon case.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> .
>