2001-02-23 00:05:00

by Thomas Lau

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Subject: need to suggest a good FS:

hey all, trouble again

anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?


2001-02-23 00:51:22

by Wakko Warner

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

> anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
> exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
> just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?

How about minixfs? >=)

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2001-02-23 01:17:26

by David Weinehall

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On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 07:57:07PM -0500, Wakko Warner wrote:
> > anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
> > exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
> > just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?
>
> How about minixfs? >=)

ADFS, AFFS, BFS or HPFS are all uncommon
and unpopular (especially in the case of AFFS, if I understood Alexander
Viro's woes correctly), QNX4 might do too, then there's always NTFS;
guaranteed to make your day...

SysV5, UFS and UDF are probably too easy to get going, or?!


/David
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2001-02-23 01:27:30

by Quim K Holland

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

>>>>> "DW" == David Weinehall <[email protected]> writes:

DW> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 07:57:07PM -0500, Wakko Warner wrote:
>> > anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
>> > exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
>> > just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?
>>
>> How about minixfs? >=)

DW> ADFS, AFFS, BFS or HPFS are all uncommon
DW> and unpopular (especially in the case of AFFS, if I understood Alexander
DW> Viro's woes correctly), QNX4 might do too, then there's always NTFS;
DW> guaranteed to make your day...

DW> SysV5, UFS and UDF are probably too easy to get going, or?!

tmpfs, swapfs, shmfs :-).


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2001-02-23 03:35:54

by Carl D. Speare

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

HTFS, which is the default filesystem for SCO OpenServer 5, is pretty
rare.

--Carl

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> >>>>> "DW" == David Weinehall <[email protected]> writes:
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> DW> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 07:57:07PM -0500, Wakko Warner wrote:
> >> > anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
> >> > exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
> >> > just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?
> >>
> >> How about minixfs? >=)
>
> DW> ADFS, AFFS, BFS or HPFS are all uncommon
> DW> and unpopular (especially in the case of AFFS, if I understood Alexander
> DW> Viro's woes correctly), QNX4 might do too, then there's always NTFS;
> DW> guaranteed to make your day...
>
> DW> SysV5, UFS and UDF are probably too easy to get going, or?!
>
> tmpfs, swapfs, shmfs :-).
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2001-02-23 09:51:32

by Mike A. Harris

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, root wrote:

>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:05:34 +0800
>From: root <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
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>Subject: need to suggest a good FS:
>
>hey all, trouble again
>
>anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
>exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
>just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?

cbmfs? Might be a bit tight on disk space though. It would
definitely be non-{normal,popular}.


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Just as bad as rm -rf *, but more fun.
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And you can't change permissions, since chmod isn't executable either. :-)

2001-02-23 13:33:04

by David Weinehall

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:35:06PM -0500, Carl D. Speare wrote:
> HTFS, which is the default filesystem for SCO OpenServer 5, is pretty
> rare.

I didn't know there was HTFS support in the Linux-kernel?!

Oh, btw, I think I just came up with the perfect file-system; CBMFS.
Feel welcome to get patches from my homepage. Guaranteed to

a.) Not work as a baseline OS (I'll probably accept patches to make it
do so, though)
b.) Drive you nuts
c.) Make you feel coooooool
d.) Allow you to use .d64's and 1581-disks from your dear C64/C128

http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ (Have a look in the Linux-section)


/David
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2001-02-23 13:34:54

by David Weinehall

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 09:15:45PM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, root wrote:
>
> >Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:05:34 +0800
> >From: root <[email protected]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Subject: need to suggest a good FS:
> >
> >hey all, trouble again
> >
> >anyone can suggest some good FS that can install linux?
> >exclude reiserfs, ext2, ext3, DOS FAT..etc
> >just need non-normal or non-popular FS, any suggestion?
>
> cbmfs? Might be a bit tight on disk space though. It would
> definitely be non-{normal,popular}.

Hmmm. With additional support for CMD's HD-format for CBMFS, this might
just work. I've got a CMD HD somewhere; maybe I should throw a 1 GB
SCSI-disk into it and get hacking... Would be cool to be able to have
the root file-system on a CBMFS-partition.

Ehrmmmm.


/David
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// Project MCA Linux hacker // Dance across the winter sky //
\> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ </ Full colour fire </

2001-02-23 17:22:19

by Carl D. Speare

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

Actually there isn't. Hmmm, sounds like I'll have some hacking to do...

But I have to ask if this is something that would actually be desirable.
Given how rare it is, does the Linux community actually want to have YAFS
(yet another file system) added to the list, especially for an even more
rare OS like OpenServer 5.0.x? Maybe now that Caldera is involved more
with SCO, it might be something that happens in a few months anyway...

--Carl

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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:35:06PM -0500, Carl D. Speare wrote:
> > HTFS, which is the default filesystem for SCO OpenServer 5, is pretty
> > rare.
>
> I didn't know there was HTFS support in the Linux-kernel?!
>
> Oh, btw, I think I just came up with the perfect file-system; CBMFS.
> Feel welcome to get patches from my homepage. Guaranteed to
>
> a.) Not work as a baseline OS (I'll probably accept patches to make it
> do so, though)
> b.) Drive you nuts
> c.) Make you feel coooooool
> d.) Allow you to use .d64's and 1581-disks from your dear C64/C128
>
> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ (Have a look in the Linux-section)
>
>
> /David
> _ _
> // David Weinehall <[email protected]> /> Northern lights wander \\
> // Project MCA Linux hacker // Dance across the winter sky //
> \> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ </ Full colour fire </
>

2001-02-23 17:34:52

by David Weinehall

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:20:34PM -0500, Carl D. Speare wrote:
> Actually there isn't. Hmmm, sounds like I'll have some hacking to do...
>
> But I have to ask if this is something that would actually be desirable.
> Given how rare it is, does the Linux community actually want to have YAFS
> (yet another file system) added to the list, especially for an even more
> rare OS like OpenServer 5.0.x? Maybe now that Caldera is involved more
> with SCO, it might be something that happens in a few months anyway...

Make a read-only version; this will make transition from HTFS to
{ext2fs, reiserfs, xfs, jfs, ...} easy. Read-only also has the property
that it won't cause on-disk corruption; at worst, you get in-memory
corruption...


/David
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// David Weinehall <[email protected]> /> Northern lights wander \\
// Project MCA Linux hacker // Dance across the winter sky //
\> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ </ Full colour fire </

2001-02-23 17:51:45

by Carl D. Speare

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Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, David Weinehall wrote:

> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:34:23 +0100
> From: David Weinehall <[email protected]>
> To: Carl D. Speare <[email protected]>
> Cc: Quim K Holland <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Subject: Re: need to suggest a good FS:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:20:34PM -0500, Carl D. Speare wrote:
> > Actually there isn't. Hmmm, sounds like I'll have some hacking to do...
> >
> > But I have to ask if this is something that would actually be desirable.
> > Given how rare it is, does the Linux community actually want to have YAFS
> > (yet another file system) added to the list, especially for an even more
> > rare OS like OpenServer 5.0.x? Maybe now that Caldera is involved more
> > with SCO, it might be something that happens in a few months anyway...
>
> Make a read-only version; this will make transition from HTFS to
> {ext2fs, reiserfs, xfs, jfs, ...} easy. Read-only also has the property
> that it won't cause on-disk corruption; at worst, you get in-memory
> corruption...
>
>
> /David
> _ _
> // David Weinehall <[email protected]> /> Northern lights wander \\
> // Project MCA Linux hacker // Dance across the winter sky //
> \> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ </ Full colour fire </

I'll see if I can get something started this weekend. At some point, if it
gets anywhere, I'll toss is into sourceforge. I'll post a link when I get
the baseline functionality going.

--Carl