2023-08-04 10:59:03

by James Clark

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Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/3] coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE

Hi,

I'm looking for help in testing this and for feedback on whether it's
useful to anyone. Testing it requires hardware that has Feat_TRF (v8.4)
but no TRBE. This is because TRBE usage is disabled in nVHE guests.

I don't currently have any access to any hardware, and the FVP model
can only do self hosted trace using TRBE.

Currently with nVHE you would always get trace from guests, and
filtering out isn't possible without this patchset. In comparison, with
VHE guests, they never generate guest trace without [1]. I think the
existence of trace rather than lack of could suggest that this change is
less useful than [1]. Also the restricted set of hardware that it works
on supports that too.

Apart from compilation and checking that the exclude guest settings
are correctly programmed on guest switch, this is untested by me.

Applies to kvmarm/next (3b4e3afb2032)

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/[email protected]/

James Clark (3):
arm64: KVM: Add support for exclude_guest and exclude_host for ETM
arm64: KVM: Support exclude_guest for Coresight trace in nVHE
coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE

arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 10 +++-
arch/arm64/kvm/Makefile | 1 +
arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 1 +
arch/arm64/kvm/debug.c | 7 +++
arch/arm64/kvm/etm.c | 48 ++++++++++++++++
arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/debug-sr.c | 56 +++++++++++++++++--
.../hwtracing/coresight/coresight-etm-perf.c | 4 ++
include/kvm/etm.h | 43 ++++++++++++++
8 files changed, 165 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 arch/arm64/kvm/etm.c
create mode 100644 include/kvm/etm.h

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2023-08-04 19:35:33

by Marc Zyngier

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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE

On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 11:13:10 +0100,
James Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for help in testing this and for feedback on whether it's
> useful to anyone. Testing it requires hardware that has Feat_TRF (v8.4)
> but no TRBE. This is because TRBE usage is disabled in nVHE guests.
>
> I don't currently have any access to any hardware, and the FVP model
> can only do self hosted trace using TRBE.
>
> Currently with nVHE you would always get trace from guests, and
> filtering out isn't possible without this patchset. In comparison, with
> VHE guests, they never generate guest trace without [1]. I think the
> existence of trace rather than lack of could suggest that this change is
> less useful than [1]. Also the restricted set of hardware that it works
> on supports that too.

It'd be nice to have some sort of feature parity, but it seems like a
vanishingly small target of users having access to an ETM sink.

>
> Apart from compilation and checking that the exclude guest settings
> are correctly programmed on guest switch, this is untested by me.

I'll have a look at the series, but none of my HW fits in this
description (my ARMv8.4+ boxes don't have any form of tracing).

Thanks,

M.

--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

2023-08-05 10:48:14

by Suzuki K Poulose

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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE

Cc: Ganpatrao, Steve, Tanmay

On 04/08/2023 11:13, James Clark wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for help in testing this and for feedback on whether it's
> useful to anyone. Testing it requires hardware that has Feat_TRF (v8.4)
> but no TRBE. This is because TRBE usage is disabled in nVHE guests.
>
> I don't currently have any access to any hardware, and the FVP model
> can only do self hosted trace using TRBE.


If you have a v8.4+ (and not v9) HW, please could you give this a spin ?

Suzuki


>
> Currently with nVHE you would always get trace from guests, and
> filtering out isn't possible without this patchset. In comparison, with
> VHE guests, they never generate guest trace without [1]. I think the
> existence of trace rather than lack of could suggest that this change is
> less useful than [1]. Also the restricted set of hardware that it works
> on supports that too.
>
> Apart from compilation and checking that the exclude guest settings
> are correctly programmed on guest switch, this is untested by me.
>
> Applies to kvmarm/next (3b4e3afb2032)
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/[email protected]/
>
> James Clark (3):
> arm64: KVM: Add support for exclude_guest and exclude_host for ETM
> arm64: KVM: Support exclude_guest for Coresight trace in nVHE
> coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE
>
> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 10 +++-
> arch/arm64/kvm/Makefile | 1 +
> arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 1 +
> arch/arm64/kvm/debug.c | 7 +++
> arch/arm64/kvm/etm.c | 48 ++++++++++++++++
> arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/nvhe/debug-sr.c | 56 +++++++++++++++++--
> .../hwtracing/coresight/coresight-etm-perf.c | 4 ++
> include/kvm/etm.h | 43 ++++++++++++++
> 8 files changed, 165 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 arch/arm64/kvm/etm.c
> create mode 100644 include/kvm/etm.h
>


2023-08-05 12:55:19

by Suzuki K Poulose

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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE

Hi Marc

On 04/08/2023 20:09, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 11:13:10 +0100,
> James Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking for help in testing this and for feedback on whether it's
>> useful to anyone. Testing it requires hardware that has Feat_TRF (v8.4)
>> but no TRBE. This is because TRBE usage is disabled in nVHE guests.
>>
>> I don't currently have any access to any hardware, and the FVP model
>> can only do self hosted trace using TRBE.
>>
>> Currently with nVHE you would always get trace from guests, and
>> filtering out isn't possible without this patchset. In comparison, with
>> VHE guests, they never generate guest trace without [1]. I think the
>> existence of trace rather than lack of could suggest that this change is
>> less useful than [1]. Also the restricted set of hardware that it works
>> on supports that too.
>
> It'd be nice to have some sort of feature parity, but it seems like a
> vanishingly small target of users having access to an ETM sink.
>
>>
>> Apart from compilation and checking that the exclude guest settings
>> are correctly programmed on guest switch, this is untested by me.
>
> I'll have a look at the series, but none of my HW fits in this
> description (my ARMv8.4+ boxes don't have any form of tracing).

While I have your attention, we have another series that manages the
trace filtering for Guests on VHE, completely within the Coresight etm4x
driver here [0]. I personally think, it is good to have the guest
filtering for both nVHE and VHE under the KVM control, like we do
in this series. I would like your opinion on this.

[0] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]


Suzuki


>
> Thanks,
>
> M.
>


2023-08-08 17:46:11

by Marc Zyngier

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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE

On Sat, 05 Aug 2023 11:28:39 +0100,
Suzuki K Poulose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Marc
>
> On 04/08/2023 20:09, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 11:13:10 +0100,
> > James Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for help in testing this and for feedback on whether it's
> >> useful to anyone. Testing it requires hardware that has Feat_TRF (v8.4)
> >> but no TRBE. This is because TRBE usage is disabled in nVHE guests.
> >>
> >> I don't currently have any access to any hardware, and the FVP model
> >> can only do self hosted trace using TRBE.
> >>
> >> Currently with nVHE you would always get trace from guests, and
> >> filtering out isn't possible without this patchset. In comparison, with
> >> VHE guests, they never generate guest trace without [1]. I think the
> >> existence of trace rather than lack of could suggest that this change is
> >> less useful than [1]. Also the restricted set of hardware that it works
> >> on supports that too.
> >
> > It'd be nice to have some sort of feature parity, but it seems like a
> > vanishingly small target of users having access to an ETM sink.
> >
> >>
> >> Apart from compilation and checking that the exclude guest settings
> >> are correctly programmed on guest switch, this is untested by me.
> >
> > I'll have a look at the series, but none of my HW fits in this
> > description (my ARMv8.4+ boxes don't have any form of tracing).
>
> While I have your attention, we have another series that manages the
> trace filtering for Guests on VHE, completely within the Coresight etm4x
> driver here [0]. I personally think, it is good to have the guest
> filtering for both nVHE and VHE under the KVM control, like we do
> in this series. I would like your opinion on this.

I just quickly reviewed the first two patches of the nVHE series, and
I think the shape is a bit wrong. I can absolutely see the interest of
preventing extra tracing when a guest is running, but the way this is
currently plugged makes it hard to reason about it.

> [0] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]

I'll try to have a look at that one later.

Thanks,

M.

--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.