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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 17:20:13 -0700
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Organization: Zytor Communications
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To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
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Subject: Re: Disabled kernel.org accounts
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Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> The SPEWS listing looks correct ...
> 

Except, at the very least, the netmask.  I have also been unable to
verify a DNS server operating at the claimed address when I have poked
at it.

> 
>>Please note that The Kernel Dot Org Organization do not endorse or
>>support spam in any shape, way or form,
> 
> ... but you would, if you were a paying customer of the ISP.
> 

We are living on donated bandwidth, which is hard enough to get.  I have
complained to our sponsor in the hope that they will complain to the
ISP, but you can imagine how well that goes over.  I can't do much.

> 
>>and certainly do not recognize any sort of "right to spam."
> 
> Being a blacklist operator myself (DSBL http://dsbl.org) I
> may surprise you that I _do_ think spammers have a right of
> free speech and a right to spam. It's just that I also think
> nobody has an obligation to listen, everybody can accept or
> deny any email they want for any random reason .. after all,
> if it's your mail server, you get to decide what to do with
> your private property.
> 

I would agree with you, *if* I could put "[NO UCE]" in my SMTP server
banner and have the spammers disconnect.  As it is, they are wasting my
time, resources, and again, mostly to commit crimes (fraud, theft of
service, ...)

	-hpa


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