Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751354Ab2KDREA (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:04:00 -0500 Received: from mail-ia0-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174]:52312 "EHLO mail-ia0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750815Ab2KDRD6 (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:03:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:03:58 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The uncatchable jitter, or may the scheduler wars be over? From: Lukasz Sokol To: Uwaysi Bin Kareem Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1374 Lines: 35 A word of addition, On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Uwaysi Bin Kareem wrote: [snip] > > Also like I stated elsewhere, since daemons seem to make a difference, > optimally putting daemons or processes that can, on a low-jitter queue, > transparent to the user, seems optimal. Unfortunately realtime is not quite > working as one would expect, causing input to be choked at times, if you > want to have one main app, and the rest on sched_other, as a low-jitter > queue. So I am still iterating this. Hard real time kernel, will make the situation even worse: there the userspace will get preempted always and no matter what it is doing; RT means here, the userspace will /get/ the slice, but whether the slice will be enough, no one can guarantee but whoever wrote the userspace. It's the userspace that must decide 'do I have enough time to run another rendering loop within this time slice (or before vsync is imminent)'. (As in: real time is not 'as fast as possible' but 'as fast as specified' and the specification need to be within reason). > [snip] > Peace Be With You. Lukasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/