Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753353Ab2KEIxk (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Nov 2012 03:53:40 -0500 Received: from mga14.intel.com ([143.182.124.37]:7990 "EHLO mga14.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751325Ab2KEIxi (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Nov 2012 03:53:38 -0500 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,713,1344236400"; d="scan'208";a="213507793" Message-ID: <50977E8D.7090204@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:53:33 +0100 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121016 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric W. Biederman" CC: Matthew Garrett , James Bottomley , Pavel Machek , Chris Friesen , Eric Paris , Jiri Kosina , Oliver Neukum , Alan Cox , Josh Boyer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support References: <20121102175416.GA11816@srcf.ucam.org> <1351879058.2439.46.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20121102180458.GA12052@srcf.ucam.org> <1351899503.2439.49.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20121103002244.GC18691@srcf.ucam.org> <1351944236.2417.7.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20121103134630.GA28166@srcf.ucam.org> <1351983400.2417.21.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20121104042802.GA11295@srcf.ucam.org> <1352020487.2427.5.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20121104135251.GA17894@srcf.ucam.org> <87d2zsmv8r.fsf@xmission.com> <509766DB.9090906@zytor.com> <87625kh5r2.fsf@xmission.com> <8582ea67-beda-44e6-82cd-52d73555dda8@email.android.com> <87k3u0cu1k.fsf@xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <87k3u0cu1k.fsf@xmission.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 646 Lines: 19 On 11/05/2012 09:50 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Facts are always a good thing to assume. > > The fact is the general case does not admit an install without user > interaction. > In the general case, no. However, that is not a good reason to rule out the cases where it *can* be done; especially as vendors are starting to wake up to actual needs of users and of Linux in particular. -hpa -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/