Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:44:36 +0000
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
        James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
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        Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
        Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:38:58 +0000
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 11:24:17PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
> > >
> > > That is a hugely different thing from needing a console.
> > 
> > Not at all.
> > 
> > In the general case user intereaction is required to tell the system to
> > boot off of your choosen boot media instead of the local hard drive.
> 
> No, in the general case the system will do that once it fails to find a 
> bootable OS on the drive.

So your "secure" system can be wiped by a random Windows 8 install media.
Ooh thats good stuff 8)
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