Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932557Ab2KFIPU (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2012 03:15:20 -0500 Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.162.213]:33054 "EHLO lennier.cc.vt.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932174Ab2KFIPS (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2012 03:15:18 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.4-dev To: Matthew Garrett Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , "H. Peter Anvin" , James Bottomley , Pavel Machek , Chris Friesen , Eric Paris , Jiri Kosina , Oliver Neukum , Alan Cox , Josh Boyer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:12:19 +0000." <20121106031219.GB24235@srcf.ucam.org> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20121104042802.GA11295@srcf.ucam.org> <1352020487.2427.5.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20121104135251.GA17894@srcf.ucam.org> <87d2zsmv8r.fsf@xmission.com> <509766DB.9090906@zytor.com> <87625kh5r2.fsf@xmission.com> <20121105123858.GB4374@srcf.ucam.org> <87sj8nc137.fsf@xmission.com> <20121105202557.GA16076@srcf.ucam.org> <87hap3zbw7.fsf@xmission.com> <20121106031219.GB24235@srcf.ucam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1352189632_2044P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:13:52 -0500 Message-ID: <98455.1352189632@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 198.82.161.152 auth3.smtp.vt.edu Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu 2 pass X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=dagger.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020202.5098C6C4.0037,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2209 Lines: 50 --==_Exmh_1352189632_2044P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:12:19 +0000, Matthew Garrett said: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:46:32PM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > You have it backwards. The conclusion here is that having a case where > > a non-interactive install is possible is not a given. > > I deal with customers who perform non-interactive installs. The fact > that you don't care about that use case is entirely irrelevant to me, > because you're not the person that I am obliged to satisfy. You *do* realize that the fact you have some set of customers who perform non-interactive installs does *not* imply that being able to do so is a given, right? The fact it is available and doable for your customers does *not* mean it's available and doable in general. There's a big difference between "the design has to deal with the fact that some customers can do this on some subsets of hardware" and "the design is free to assume that this is doable". --==_Exmh_1352189632_2044P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQIVAwUBUJjGwAdmEQWDXROgAQIIhg/9Gl10cFvr5Y9fk2RvoxuquXQpuFnOgVYj LcUBn6wFIhTcce8bsxaKPYK48eofDzLmDC+kLSNsxFoP3tkDlwie7nNCCbd6B/RG po/HbFg1tk0Axsi5CdmPtmHq2NtvZcGbdGlEvSBVh6XybEzJnN2pfXuc6272Mrvf zLEhyopFunSvqLupymPwNNfUGuZCWrPXb90L9IeBWRhPFQJcBKQ+Q/3khkZB6hvq zcfA77tBQa7/04NeOW8UNHvpmTdqmoAkMab+ge10W+jfrtgErxYbEjCDuBzMYnKe aMZr5hjvt0Wcicl2uQSAR5wSGRRMr6G2j0jYrh1UCh9CCXZPvPMv0dg0tsPoz1b7 1cjTbTzj297F/o7ymICwQGrhDqxZkAekRdDBftF0sCS9eguiN5LnU4xLB+lQaq7O gc4XN7GeW3ZUyXiNWBVZ6uGuvN1QVrgNuAW57V+ETA6acE07DvpILt3XQ4El44HP 4+/mvlD5qG4G7XvOCHSNzY8UrNq1k4HHc0DnwsNXKHoB55K2Rh3DysL8BP4dY25f HHVmXgQ5Yoe/UnLpQGoaaL/Rn+kcYS+geMq0jAmVoJHB0ALUMD3J0bEy5Rw0HOM4 rEOxpm1/Ujaf2J7x1lVxNe3p0mf1rigGnQr58JfjBPSU0/glu2t6/6+bsxWzyV3f +NU4hYuxAec= =LLis -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1352189632_2044P-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/