From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com
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Subject: Re: ide drive dying?
To: Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de (Dieter =?iso-8859-15?q?N=FCtzel?=)
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:42:29 +0100 (BST)
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> Andre, can you fix start/stop counts, please?
> 
> unWave1 /home/nuetzel# /usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/sda
> Device: IBM      DDYS-T18350N     Version: S96H
> Device supports S.M.A.R.T. and is Enabled
> Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
> S.M.A.R.T. Sense: Okay!
> Current Drive Temperature:     31 C
> Drive Trip Temperature:        85 C
> Current start stop count:      131072 times
> Recommended start stop count:  2555920 times
> 
> SunWave1 /home/nuetzel# /usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/sdb
> Device: IBM      DDRS-34560D      Version: DC1B
> Device supports S.M.A.R.T. and is Enabled
> Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
> S.M.A.R.T. Sense: Okay!
> 
> SunWave1 /home/nuetzel# /usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/sdc
> Device: IBM      DDRS-34560W      Version: S71D
> Device supports S.M.A.R.T. and is Enabled
> Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
> S.M.A.R.T. Sense: Okay!
> 
> Smartsuite-2.1 (at least) missing some feather for SCSI.

Are you sure that it is not just the drive mis-reporting the start/stop counts?  S.M.A.R.T. implementions are often flakey.

> BTW
> I had a double disk crash (same symptoms as in this thread) in a school's 
> RAID5 with four Fujitsu MPG3204AT-EF (the ones with gel-lager, silent and 
> reliable we hoped) last week...
> The shop for which I work from time to time got 71 disks of this type back 
> (sold over the last 1.5 years). We switched to them after the "IBM" disaster. 
> Maybe a "misdecision" ;-)
> What shall we sell safely, now...?
> MAXTOR?

I have *never* lost data to a Maxtor disk.  I have had IBM, Fujitsu, Western Digital, and DEC drives all fail on me before.

It's dissapointing that Maxtor are reducing their warranty from 3 years to 1 year, but on the other hand, I've never needed it at all.

John.
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