Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753162Ab2KMDml (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:42:41 -0500 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:57955 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751722Ab2KMDmk (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: <50A1C1A1.7060200@vlnb.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:42:25 -0500 From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120313 Mnenhy/0.8.5 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5p2o6IuP56uLIFlhbmcgU3UgTGk=?= CC: "Theodore Ts'o" , General Discussion of SQLite Database , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Richard Hipp Subject: Re: [sqlite] light weight write barriers References: <5086F5A7.9090406@vlnb.net> <20121025051445.GA9860@thunk.org> <508B3EED.2080003@vlnb.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:pDU+3oPLsasYbL4hQOMK/uCFz6QImKwBlROxaIM2NHr n1Gp68NvORHayR3Jj/cLYNF0AnSWqcTPdzh6/lotfQiqDQV4dt fa39QL6Zn3HBHQUtK9CASRsccdlilc3KlAkymLuwA/+Rzw0gq8 01GcrhhF2lC9eb9mXGOeC86Jwg8b1GBXCjhGdxkhNo0brYS2zr WsmoJqvecoRD78omiIi4YK92PCgT1BM0DP4vNiWJui4lZ6EwQG /0zKffxMxkm6iXBnnVxdCGyIDjgMT1H4qSVb0+pJlhwIs2CaTI kZH/TE4TKto7SjXY2XPK4M8ZnbZ+xcKJYMXQ7/omJQ4YXBYXun P2QJdDWKyc2ips/g7Ybs= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1475 Lines: 35 杨苏立 Yang Su Li, on 11/10/2012 11:25 PM wrote: >> SATA's Native Command >>> Queuing (NCQ) is not equivalent; this allows the drive to reorder >>> requests (in particular read requests) so they can be serviced more >>> efficiently, but it does *not* allow the OS to specify a partial, >>> relative ordering of requests. >>> >> >> And so? If SATA can't do it, does it mean that nobody else can't do it >> too? I know a plenty of non-SATA devices, which can do the ordering >> requirements you need. >> > > I would be very much interested in what kind of device support this kind of > "topological order", and in what settings they are typically used. > > Does modern flash/SSD (esp. which are used on smartphones) support this? > > If you could point me to some information about this, that would be very > much appreciated. I don't think storage in smartphone can support such advanced functionality, because it tends to be the cheapest, hence the simplest. But many modern Enterprise SAS drives can do it, because for those customers performance is the key requirement. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can name exact brands and models, because I had my knowledge from NDA'ed docs, so this info can be also NDA'ed. Vlad -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/