Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755893Ab2KMVLG (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:11:06 -0500 Received: from zene.cmpxchg.org ([85.214.230.12]:34220 "EHLO zene.cmpxchg.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755846Ab2KMVLE (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:11:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:10:41 -0500 From: Johannes Weiner To: Michal Hocko Cc: Andrew Morton , Glauber Costa , linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo , Li Zefan , KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki , Balbir Singh Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] memcg: Simplify mem_cgroup_force_empty_list error handling Message-ID: <20121113211041.GB1543@cmpxchg.org> References: <1351251453-6140-1-git-send-email-mhocko@suse.cz> <1351251453-6140-4-git-send-email-mhocko@suse.cz> <508E8B95.406@parallels.com> <20121029150022.a595b866.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20121030103559.GA7394@dhcp22.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121030103559.GA7394@dhcp22.suse.cz> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2716 Lines: 56 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:35:59AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Mon 29-10-12 15:00:22, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:58:45 +0400 > > Glauber Costa wrote: > > > > > > + * move charges to its parent or the root cgroup if the group has no > > > > + * parent (aka use_hierarchy==0). > > > > + * Although this might fail (get_page_unless_zero, isolate_lru_page or > > > > + * mem_cgroup_move_account fails) the failure is always temporary and > > > > + * it signals a race with a page removal/uncharge or migration. In the > > > > + * first case the page is on the way out and it will vanish from the LRU > > > > + * on the next attempt and the call should be retried later. > > > > + * Isolation from the LRU fails only if page has been isolated from > > > > + * the LRU since we looked at it and that usually means either global > > > > + * reclaim or migration going on. The page will either get back to the > > > > + * LRU or vanish. > > > > > > I just wonder for how long can it go in the worst case? > > > > If the kernel is uniprocessor and the caller is SCHED_FIFO: ad infinitum! > > You are right, if the rmdir (resp. echo > force_empty) at SCHED_FIFO > races with put_page (on a shared page) which gets preempted after > put_page_testzero and before __page_cache_release then we are screwed: > > put_page(page) > put_page_testzero > > mem_cgroup_force_empty_list > page = list_entry(list->prev, struct page, lru); > mem_cgroup_move_parent(page) > get_page_unless_zero > cond_resched() > > The race window is really small but it is definitely possible. I am not > happy about this state and it should be probably mentioned in the > patch description but I do not see any way around (except for hacks like > sched_setscheduler for the current which is, ehm...) and still keep > do_not_fail contract here. > > Can we consider this as a corner case (it is much easier to kill a > machine with SCHED_FIFO than this anyway) or the concern is really > strong and we should come with a solution before this can get merged? Wouldn't the much bigger race window be reclaim having the page isolated and SCHED_FIFO preventing it from putback? I also don't think this is a new class of problem, though. Would it make sense to stick a wait_on_page_locked() in there just so that we don't busy spin on a page under migration/reclaim? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/