Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754282Ab2KUKHs (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:07:48 -0500 Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:63618 "EHLO mail-qc0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753308Ab2KUKHo convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:07:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50ACA634.5000007@gmail.com> References: <1353433362.85184.YahooMailNeo@web141101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20121120182500.GH1408@quack.suse.cz> <1353485020.53500.YahooMailNeo@web141104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1353485630.17455.YahooMailNeo@web141106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50AC9220.70202@gmail.com> <20121121090204.GA9064@localhost> <50ACA209.9000101@gmail.com> <1353491880.11679.YahooMailNeo@web141102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <50ACA634.5000007@gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?TWV0aW4gRMO2xZ9sw7w=?= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem in Page Cache Replacement To: Jaegeuk Hanse Cc: Fengguang Wu , Jan Kara , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 5404 Lines: 139 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jaegeuk Hanse wrote: > > On 11/21/2012 05:58 PM, metin d wrote: > > Hi Fengguang, > > I run tests and attached the results. The line below I guess shows the data-1 page caches. > > 0x000000080000006c 6584051 25718 __RU_lA___________________P________ referenced,uptodate,lru,active,private > > > I thinks this is just one state of page cache pages. But why these page caches are in this state as opposed to other page caches. From the results I conclude that: data-1 pages are in state : referenced,uptodate,lru,active,private data-2 pages are in state : referenced,uptodate,lru,mappedtodisk > > > > > Metin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jaegeuk Hanse > To: Fengguang Wu > Cc: metin d ; Jan Kara ; "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" ; "linux-mm@kvack.org" > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Problem in Page Cache Replacement > > On 11/21/2012 05:02 PM, Fengguang Wu wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 04:34:40PM +0800, Jaegeuk Hanse wrote: > >> Cc Fengguang Wu. > >> > >> On 11/21/2012 04:13 PM, metin d wrote: > >>>> Curious. Added linux-mm list to CC to catch more attention. If you run > >>>> echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches does it evict data-1 pages from memory? > >>> I'm guessing it'd evict the entries, but am wondering if we could run any more diagnostics before trying this. > >>> > >>> We regularly use a setup where we have two databases; one gets used frequently and the other one about once a month. It seems like the memory manager keeps unused pages in memory at the expense of frequently used database's performance. > >>> My understanding was that under memory pressure from heavily > >>> accessed pages, unused pages would eventually get evicted. Is there > >>> anything else we can try on this host to understand why this is > >>> happening? > > We may debug it this way. > > > > 1) run 'fadvise data-2 0 0 dontneed' to drop data-2 cached pages > > (please double check via /proc/vmstat whether it does the expected work) > > > > 2) run 'page-types -r' with root, to view the page status for the > > remaining pages of data-1 > > > > The fadvise tool comes from Andrew Morton's ext3-tools. (source code attached) > > Please compile them with options "-Dlinux -I. -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE" > > > > page-types can be found in the kernel source tree tools/vm/page-types.c > > > > Sorry that sounds a bit twisted.. I do have a patch to directly dump > > page cache status of a user specified file, however it's not > > upstreamed yet. > > Hi Fengguang, > > Thanks for you detail steps, I think metin can have a try. > > flags page-count MB symbolic-flags long-symbolic-flags > 0x0000000000000000 607699 2373 > ___________________________________ > 0x0000000100000000 343227 1340 > _______________________r___________ reserved > > But I have some questions of the print of page-type: > > Is 2373MB here mean total memory in used include page cache? I don't > think so. > Which kind of pages will be marked reserved? > Which line of long-symbolic-flags is for page cache? > > Regards, > Jaegeuk > > > > > Thanks, > > Fengguang > > > >>> On Tue 20-11-12 09:42:42, metin d wrote: > >>>> I have two PostgreSQL databases named data-1 and data-2 that sit on the > >>>> same machine. Both databases keep 40 GB of data, and the total memory > >>>> available on the machine is 68GB. > >>>> > >>>> I started data-1 and data-2, and ran several queries to go over all their > >>>> data. Then, I shut down data-1 and kept issuing queries against data-2. > >>>> For some reason, the OS still holds on to large parts of data-1's pages > >>>> in its page cache, and reserves about 35 GB of RAM to data-2's files. As > >>>> a result, my queries on data-2 keep hitting disk. > >>>> > >>>> I'm checking page cache usage with fincore. When I run a table scan query > >>>> against data-2, I see that data-2's pages get evicted and put back into > >>>> the cache in a round-robin manner. Nothing happens to data-1's pages, > >>>> although they haven't been touched for days. > >>>> > >>>> Does anybody know why data-1's pages aren't evicted from the page cache? > >>>> I'm open to all kind of suggestions you think it might relate to problem. > >>> Curious. Added linux-mm list to CC to catch more attention. If you run > >>> echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches > >>> does it evict data-1 pages from memory? > >>> > >>>> This is an EC2 m2.4xlarge instance on Amazon with 68 GB of RAM and no > >>>> swap space. The kernel version is: > >>>> > >>>> $ uname -r > >>>> 3.2.28-45.62.amzn1.x86_64 > >>>> Edit: > >>>> > >>>> and it seems that I use one NUMA instance, if you think that it can a problem. > >>>> > >>>> $ numactl --hardware > >>>> available: 1 nodes (0) > >>>> node 0 cpus: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > >>>> node 0 size: 70007 MB > >>>> node 0 free: 360 MB > >>>> node distances: > >>>> node 0 > >>>> 0: 10 > > -- Metin Döşlü -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/