Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754396Ab2KUN6f (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:58:35 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:40527 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753160Ab2KUN6c (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:58:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:58:49 +0100 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Ivo Sieben Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox , Greg KH Subject: Re: [REPOST-v2] sched: Prevent wakeup to enter critical section needlessly Message-ID: <20121121135849.GA21030@redhat.com> References: <1351159974-980-1-git-send-email-meltedpianoman@gmail.com> <1353310211-3011-1-git-send-email-meltedpianoman@gmail.com> <20121119151050.GA4270@redhat.com> <20121119154940.GA6354@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1690 Lines: 64 On 11/21, Ivo Sieben wrote: > Hi > > 2012/11/19 Oleg Nesterov : > > > > Because on a second thought I suspect this change is wrong. > > > > Just for example, please look at kauditd_thread(). It does > > > > set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE); > > > > add_wait_queue(&kauditd_wait, &wait); > > > > if (!CONDITION) // <-- LOAD > > schedule(); > > > > And the last LOAD can leak into the critical section protected by > > wait_queue_head_t->lock, and it can be reordered with list_add() > > inside this critical section. In this case we can race with wake_up() > > unless it takes the same lock. > > > > Oleg. > > > > I agree that I should solve my problem using the waitqueue_active() > function locally. I'll abandon this patch and fix it in the > tty_ldisc.c. > > But we try to understand your fault scenario: How can the LOAD leak > into the critical section? As far as we understand the spin_unlock() > function also contains a memory barrier ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not really, in general unlock is a one-way barrier. > to prevent such a reordering > from happening. Please look at the comment above prepare_to_wait(), for example. Or look at wmb() in try_to_wake_up(). I guess this is not possible on x86, but in general X; LOCK(); UNLOCK(); Y; can be reordered as LOCK(); Y; X; UNLOCK(); UNLOCK + LOCK is the full memory barrier. Oleg. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/