Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:33:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:33:30 -0400 Received: from h66-38-216-165.gtconnect.net ([66.38.216.165]:38917 "HELO innerfire.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:33:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:38:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerhard Mack To: Kai Henningsen cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Spamcop In-Reply-To: <8WnkQMU1w-B@khms.westfalen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1367 Lines: 38 On 13 Sep 2002, Kai Henningsen wrote: > david+cert@blue-labs.org (David Ford) wrote on 13.09.02 in <3D8167A0.1080009@blue-labs.org>: > > > It was listed and promptly delisted three hours later. No anti-spam > > measure is perfect, all have flaws > > ... and this one appears to have a terminal flaw. Using complaints without > verification to automatically list someone is a bad idea for *exactly* the > same reason that running an open relay is a bad idea - you are at the > mercy of good behaviour of third parties, and if they don't innocents > elsewhere suffer. > > Or in other words, spamcop seems to be part of the problem, not part of > the solution. It is.. the definition of spam sent to spamcop is often "mail I don't want" That listing is even more pointless than the ones we get from customers who forgot they signed up for things and then complain there first instead of using our list removal system. Worse yet because spamcop munges the headders we can't actually remove the complaining user. Gerhard -- Gerhard Mack gmack@innerfire.net <>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/