Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:00:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:00:20 -0400 Received: from krusty.dt.E-Technik.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.163.1]:39436 "EHLO mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:00:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:05:07 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ADMIN: DON'T try to be clever with email headers! Message-ID: <20020914120507.GA16598@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20020910225530.A17094@mars.ravnborg.org> <20020910230656.D18386@mars.ravnborg.org> <9500000.1031706478@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> <20020911071219.A1352@mars.ravnborg.org> <20020913173709.GG30392@mea-ext.zmailer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020913173709.GG30392@mea-ext.zmailer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1768 Lines: 39 On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Matti Aarnio wrote: > Folks, when aiming to post into VGER's lists, DO NOT > try to make any cute things in headers. Any such > are bound to cause TONS of bounces, which did happen > in this particular case... The fix is to normalize headers. Any mailing list should do that. I have seen ISODE PP 5.0, running the uni-dortmund secondary MX (which is in fact the only reachable outside the intranet), bounce on perfectly-legal addresses, and mails containing double Date: headers and for other frivolous reasons. Recently I got unsubscribed for reasons Dave Miller could not recall, he had not kept the bounce :-( Does anybody know of an opensource real-time anti-relay SMTP proxy that can do aliasing? I like the way ezmlm-idx, a mailing list manager, handles things, it stores bounces, and after some days, notifies the list members, and if the notice does not get through, kills the subscription after another verification. I'd be good if the vger lists could do the same, so users could actually figure what goes through and what is rejected. Anyhow, by all means, DO KEEP THE BOUNCES YOU GET, use a script and keep them for two weeks, and then weed them out. Feel free to weed all subsequent bounces from one address that has the same bounce reason. This should be possible with low effort, but allows users to figure what's up should they ask. BTW, his header showed up escaped at my site: Reply-To: "andy@"@his.domain And, FWIW, this looks legal to me according to RFC-2822 EBNF. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/