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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:33:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:

> On Tuesday 10 September 2002 21:03, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On 10 Sep 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > 
> > > It drops you politely into the kernel debugger, you fix up the values
> > > and step over it. If you want to debug with zen mind power and printk
> > > feel free. For the rest of us BUG() is fine on SMP
> > 
> > Ok, a show of hands.. 
> > 
> > Of the millions (whatever) of Linux machines, how many have a kernel 
> > debugger attached? Count them.
> 
> Eh, mine is getting one attached to it right now. 

Me too.

> It's getting more
> popular, and it would be more popular yet if it weren't considered some
> dirty little secret, or somehow unmanly.

Reminds me of "Suns boot fast" (do a google search on it, and read the 
first thing that comes up).

> 
> Let's try a different show of hands: How many users would be happier if
> they knew that kernel developers are using modern techniques to improve
> the quality of the kernel?
> 
> Of course, I use the term "modern" here loosely, since kdb and kgdb are
> really only 80's technology.  Without them, we're stuck in the 60's.
Moving from the stone to the bronze age, one day at a time.


> 
> 

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