Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:02:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:02:56 -0400 Received: from nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com ([66.187.233.200]:63114 "EHLO devserv.devel.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:02:56 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:07:39 -0400 From: Pete Zaitcev To: Daniel Phillips Cc: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34 Message-ID: <20020915020739.A22101@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from phillips@arcor.de on Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 07:10:00AM +0200 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1328 Lines: 31 > From: Daniel Phillips > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:10:00 +0200 >[...] > Let's try a different show of hands: How many users would be happier if > they knew that kernel developers are using modern techniques to improve > the quality of the kernel? I do not see how using a debugger improves a quality of the kernel. Good thinking and coding does improve kernel quality. Debugger certainly does not help if someone cannot code. A debugger can do some good things. Some people argue that it improves productivity, which I think may be true under some circomstances. If your build system sucks and/or slow, and if you work with a binary only software, debugger helps. If you work with something like Linux, and compile on something better than a 333MHz x86, it probably does not help your productivity. This is all wonderful, but has nothing to do with the code quality. And to think that your users would be happier with a crap produced by a debugger touting Windows graduate than with a quality code debugged with observation simply defies any reason. -- Pete - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/