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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> Let's try a different show of hands: How many users would be happier if
> they knew that kernel developers are using modern techniques to improve
> the quality of the kernel?

You're all talk and no action.

The last time I looked, the people who really _do_ improve the quality of
the kernel don't tend to care too much about debuggers, or are at least
capable to add a patch on their own.

In fact, of the people who opened their mouth about the BUG() issue, how 
many actually ended up personally _debugging_ the BUG() that we were 
talking about?

I did. Matt probably did. But I didn't see you fixing it with your
debugger.

So next time you bring up the kernel debugger issue, show some code and 
real improvement first. Until then, don't spout off.

		Linus

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