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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
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Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 02:44:53 +0200
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On Monday 16 September 2002 01:24, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Does this mean I'm against debuggers?  Not at all.  But in 15 years of
> doing kernel work and 5 years of doing BK work the only thing I've ever
> used one for was to get a few variables printed out.  And I've written
> a substantial chunk of a debugger years ago, it's not a question of lack
> of debugger knowledge.  I just rarely find them useful.  

You are hereby invited to debug the DAC960 driver.  Making the needed
changes only took a few hours to get it to the point where it initializes,
now it oopses in the interrupt handler, because I did the bio part wrong.
Of course, you might not make any mistakes, but you probably will, so get
ready with your printks.  It's going to take you a while, I can assure
you.

I flat out refuse to do this without kgdb.

-- 
Daniel
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