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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:01:40 +0100
From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets
 an INIT
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On 2013-03-11 14:54, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:31:46PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 11/03/2013 12:51, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed, but we still have the problem of how to signal from userspace.
>>>>> For that do you have any other suggestion than mp_state?  And if we keep
>>>>> mp_state to signal from userspace, giving INIT_RECEIVED the
>>>>> "wait-for-SIPI" semantics would be wrong.
>>>>>
>>> I don't see how can we use mp_state for signaling from userspace either.
>>> Currently soft reset always reset vcpus, so it is OK for userspace to
>>> generate reset vcpu state and put it into kernel, mp_state is just one
>>> of the updated states, but when INIT will be just another signal that
>>> may or may not reset cpu or have other side effects like #vmexit this
>>> will not longer work. We will have to have another interface for
>>> injecting INIT from userspace and userspace soft-reset will use it
>>> instead of doing reset by itself.
>>
>> Setting the mp_state to INIT_RECEIVED is that interface, and it already
>> works, for APs at least.  This patch extends it to work for the BSP as well.
>>
> It does not for AP either. If AP has vmx on mp_sate should not be set to
> INIT_RECEIVED. mp_sate is a state as you can see from its name and we
> already had a discussion on the generic device API about importance of
> separating sending commands from setting state. There is a difference
> between setting mp_sate during migration and signaling INIT#.
> 
>> In the corresponding userspace patch, I don't need to touch the CPU
>> state at all.  I can just signal the kernel.  If I touch the CPU, I'll
>> break the nested case, no matter how it is implemented.  So far, the
>> userspace did not have to worry about nested, and that's something that
>> should be kept that way.
> We are discussing two different things here. I'll try to separate them.
> 1. BSP is broken WRT #INIT
> 2. nested is broken WRT #INIT
> 
> You are fixing 1 with your patches, for that I proposed much easier
> solution (at last from kernel point of view): if BSP reset it in
> userspace and make it runnable. Nested virt is still broken, but this is
> not what you are fixing.
> 
> For 2 much more involved fix is needed. Jan fixes it and it will require
> signaling INIT# from userspace by other means than mp_sate because
> signaling INIT# does not automatically means that mp_sate changes to
> INIT_RECEIVED.
>  
>>
>> If we move away from the INIT_RECEIVED and SIPI_RECEIVED states for
>> in-kernel APIC -> VCPU communication, then the KVM_SET_MP_STATE ioctl
>> will have to convert them to the right bits in the requests field or in
>> the APIC state.  But I'm starting to see less benefit from moving away
>> from mp_state.
>>
> We are not moving away from mp_state, we are moving away from using
> mp_state for signaling because with nested virt INIT does not always
> change mp_state, not only that it can change mp_state long after signal
> is received after vmx off is done.

Right.

BTW, for that to happen, we will also need to influence the INIT level.
Unless I misread the spec, INIT is blocked while in root mode, and if
you deassert INIT before leaving root (vmxoff, vmenter), nothing
actually happens. So what matters is the INIT signal level at the exit
of root mode.

Jan

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