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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:02:25 +0100
From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: Hi is this critical??
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 12:17:53PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:09, Russell King wrote:
> > Then you find out that its been used in the world cup.  You try to
> > return it to the vendor, but the vendor says its your fault for
> > dropping the drive.  You protest, but the vendor refuses to listen
> > because they've got their technology that says so in their product.
> 
> Then you take them to the small claims court. Its their burden of proof.

Ok.  So the vendor gets out their technology that says "this drive
has been exposed to excessive G force."  So they have proof that it
has been dropped by someone.  However, the vendor can't prove that:

1. the vendor didn't drop it
2. the parcel company didn't drop it
3. you didn't drop it

Conversely, you can't prove:

1. that the vendor dropped it
2. the parcel company dropped it
3. you dropped it (not that you'd want to)

So its now their word against yours, and as you say, its up to the
vendor to prove that _you_ caused the damage.  Fortunately, this
technology doesn't do that, so honest users might be safe for the
time being.

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html

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