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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: Hi is this critical??
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Russell King wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 11:41:44AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 09:20, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> > > MORONS that think the drive vendors are not clued into the issue.
> > > I have to read and vote on NASTY proposals, whose intent is to check for
> > > G-Force damage.  If you think that record is not findable, even if you
> > 
> > Sounds good news for honest users. What it does want though is the
> > ability of users to check that data when the disk arrives, because we
> > have delivery people, and they think that if looks like a box its
> > probably a football.
> 
> No.  Sounds _bad_ news for honest users.  Lets be realistic here.
> Parcel company uses package as a football, then delivers it.
> 
> How many parcel companies will wait while you unpack the hard drive,
> dismantle your machine, connect the drive, power it up and check to
> see if the drive has suffered too much shock?

Quietly it is the SHIPPER's Test.

There should be an appilcation you run when you get the device.
If you fail to run it when you get first powerup the device, you are at
fault.  To many devices have been smoked in shipping.

> Yep, that's right, none.  If you try to, the parcel delivery person
> will get really ratty.  So you sign for it after checking that the
> outside box is undamaged.
> 
> Then you find out that its been used in the world cup.  You try to
> return it to the vendor, but the vendor says its your fault for
> dropping the drive.  You protest, but the vendor refuses to listen
> because they've got their technology that says so in their product.
> 
> So, its NOT great for honest users.  Its another form of "Digital
> Rights Management."
> 
> -- 
> Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
>              http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html
> 

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group

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