Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:25:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:25:28 -0400 Received: from 62-190-218-75.pdu.pipex.net ([62.190.218.75]:57354 "EHLO darkstar.example.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:25:27 -0400 From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com Message-Id: <200209171930.g8HJU8XO004127@darkstar.example.net> Subject: Re: Hi is this critical?? To: rmk@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:30:08 +0100 (BST) Cc: andre@linux-ide.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, nuitari@balthasar.nuitari.net, venom@sns.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xavier.bestel@free.fr, mark@veltzer.org In-Reply-To: <20020917185440.C29890@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> from "Russell King" at Sep 17, 2002 06:54:40 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1219 Lines: 28 > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:34:10AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > Quietly it is the SHIPPER's Test. > > > > There should be an appilcation you run when you get the device. > > If you fail to run it when you get first powerup the device, you are at > > fault. To many devices have been smoked in shipping. > > Umm, that's crap. If the program is an x86 binary, I don't have > the facilities to run it here. No, it's not an x86 binary, it's in the firmware of the drive: Execute Extended Self Test smartctl -x /dev/hda? so if you can send a S.M.A.R.T. command, you can run the test. > Its their problem. Its a crap system. Period. No, I don't think that you can expect drive manufacturers to replace a disc that you haven't taken care of, especially if it has been used as a football, (isn't that against FIFA regulations, though? Especially in the world cup example given earlier in this thread. I thought the specs of the football were quite strict). John. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/