Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933917Ab3CSXSB (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:18:01 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:55842 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755134Ab3CSXR7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:17:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:17:56 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: James Bottomley Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/efi: pull NV+BS variables out before we exit boot services Message-ID: <20130319231756.GA21071@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20130319014850.GA28934@srcf.ucam.org> <1363680885.2377.11.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130319163531.GA10879@srcf.ucam.org> <1363713447.2377.60.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130319172506.GA11969@srcf.ucam.org> <1363717411.2377.68.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130319182810.GA13003@srcf.ucam.org> <1363718456.2377.71.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130319185003.GA13301@srcf.ucam.org> <1363734031.2377.77.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1363734031.2377.77.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1737 Lines: 35 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:00:31PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 18:50 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Well, that somewhat complicates implementation - we'd be encrypting the > > entire contents of memory except for the key that we're using to encrypt > > memory. Keeping the public key away from userspace avoids having to care > > about that. > > I don't quite understand what you're getting at: the principle of public > key cryptography is that you can make the public key, well public. You > only need to guard the private key. Ok, so let's just rephrase it as asymmetric cryptography. The aim is to ensure that there's never a situation where userspace can decrypt a hibernation file, modify it and reencrypt it. So, shim (or whatever) generates a keypair. The encryption key is passed to the kernel being booted. The decryption key is stashed in a variable in order to be passed to the resume kernel. If the decryption key is available to userspace then the kernel needs to discard the encryption key during image write-out - otherwise the encryption key will be in the encrypted image. If the decryption key isn't available to userspace then this isn't a concern. If the decryption key *is* available to userspace (as it would be in your case), there's a requirement to discard the encryption key during the hibernation process. This isn't impossible, but it does add a little to the complexity. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/