Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752915Ab3CZRVJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:21:09 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:47776 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751683Ab3CZRVH (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:21:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:21:04 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Danny Baumann Cc: David Airlie , intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] drm/i915: Allow specifying a minimum brightness level for sysfs control. Message-ID: <20130326172103.GA24566@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1364298525-4337-1-git-send-email-dannybaumann@web.de> <20130326170203.GA23549@srcf.ucam.org> <5151D686.9070701@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5151D686.9070701@web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1513 Lines: 33 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 06:10:30PM +0100, Danny Baumann wrote: > Am 26.03.2013 18:02, schrieb Matthew Garrett: > >I'm not quite clear what you mean here. The behaviour of "0" isn't well > >defined for the ACPI backlight driver - it's perfectly reasonable for it > >to turn the backlight off entirely. Anything assuming that "0" is still > >visible is broken. > > Well, the ACPI spec says this (section B.5.2): > > " > The OEM may define the number 0 as "Zero brightness" that can mean > to turn off the lighting (e.g. LCD panel backlight) in the device. > This may be useful in the case of an output device that can still be > viewed using only ambient light, for example, a transflective LCD. > " > > My interpretation of this is that the value 0 is supposed to still > be visible. I'm pretty sure I saw a statement that 0 is supposed to > mean "barely visible" somewhere, but can't find it at the moment. > I'll search for the source of it. I think that's a stretch - "This may be useful" isn't normative language, "The OEM may define" is. But even if we do assert it for the ACPI backlight, it's not true for other interfaces - zero backlight intensity is supposed to be screen off on Apple hardware, for instance. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/