Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422896Ab3DFNQD (ORCPT ); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:16:03 -0400 Received: from li9-11.members.linode.com ([67.18.176.11]:59791 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422801Ab3DFNQA (ORCPT ); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:16:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:15:14 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Jiri Slaby Cc: Mel Gorman , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linux-MM Subject: Re: Excessive stall times on ext4 in 3.9-rc2 Message-ID: <20130406131514.GB7816@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Slaby , Mel Gorman , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linux-MM References: <20130402142717.GH32241@suse.de> <20130402150651.GB31577@thunk.org> <20130402151436.GC31577@thunk.org> <20130403101925.GA7341@suse.de> <515F4DA3.2000000@suse.cz> <20130405231635.GA6521@thunk.org> <515FCEEC.9070504@suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <515FCEEC.9070504@suse.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2746 Lines: 60 On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 09:29:48AM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote: > > I'm not sure, as I am using -next like for ever. But sure, there was a > kernel which didn't ahve this problem. Any chance you could try rolling back to 3.2 or 3.5 to see if you can get a starting point? Even a high-level bisection search would be helpful to give us a hint. >Ok, > dd if=/dev/zero of=xxx >is enough instead of "kernel update". Was the dd running in the VM or in the host OS? Basically, is running the VM required? > Nothing, just VM (kernel update from console) and mplayer2 on the host. > This is more-or-less reproducible with these two. No browser or anything else running that might be introducing a stream of fsync()'s? > jbd2/sda5-8-10969 [000] .... 403.679552: jbd2_run_stats: dev >259,655360 tid 348895 wait 0 request_delay 0 running 5000 locked 1040 >flushing 0 logging 112 handle_count 148224 blocks 1 blocks_logged 2 > jbd2/md2-8-959 [000] .... 408.111339: jbd2_run_stats: dev 9,2 >tid 382991 wait 0 request_delay 0 running 5156 locked 2268 flushing 0 >logging 124 handle_count 5 blocks 1 blocks_logged 2 OK, so this is interesting. The commit is stalling for 1 second in the the transaction commit on sda5, and then very shortly thereafter for 2.2 seconds on md2, while we are trying to lock down the transaction. What that means is that we are waiting for all of the transaction handles opened against that particular commit to complete before we can let the transaction commit proceed. Is md2 sharing the same disk spindle as sda5? And to which disk were you doing the "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/XXX" command? If I had to guess what's going on, the disk is accepting a huge amount of writes to its track buffer, and then occasionally it is going out to lunch trying to write all of this data to the disk platter. This is not (always) happening when we do the commit (with its attended cache flush command), but in a few cases, we are doing a read command which is getting stalled. There are a few cases where we start a transaction handle, and then discover that we need to read in a disk block, and if that read stalls for a long period of time, it will hold the transaction handle open, and this will in turn stall the commit. If you were to grab a blocktrace, I suspect that is what you will find; that it's actually a read command which is stalling at some point, correlated with when we are trying to start transaction commit. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/