Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S936019Ab3DHUSA (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:18:00 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]:52078 "EHLO mail-ob0-f171.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935904Ab3DHUR4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:17:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130408200904.GI28292@redhat.com> References: <20130205181926.GA13942@srcf.ucam.org> <20130205183436.GC12853@redhat.com> <20130405135000.GB6299@redhat.com> <1365450229.3847.56.camel@falcor1.watson.ibm.com> <20130408200904.GI28292@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:17:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] initramfs with digital signature protection From: Josh Boyer To: Vivek Goyal Cc: Mimi Zohar , "Kasatkin, Dmitry" , Matthew Garrett , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1853 Lines: 44 On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 03:43:49PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: >> On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 09:50 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote: >> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 11:55:09PM +0200, Kasatkin, Dmitry wrote: >> > >> > [..] >> > > > Also I am assuming that from signed initramfs, keys will be loaded in >> > > > appropriate keyrings and then keyring will be locked so that any >> > > > tools from unsigned initramfs can not load additional keys. >> > > > >> > > >> > > Exactly like that. >> > >> > Dmitry, >> > >> > [ Following up on this thread after a very long time ] >> > >> > I was thinking about this point that keys can be loaded from signed >> > initramfs. But how is it better than embedding the keys in kernel the >> > way we do for module signing and lock down ima keyring before control >> > is passed to initramfs. >> > >> > Reason being, that anyway a user can not put its own keys in signed >> > initramfs. Signed initramfs will be shipped by distribution. So then >> > it does not matter whether distribution's keys are embedded in the >> > kernel or are loaded from signed initramfs. >> >> Although both the early initramfs and the kernel are signed, building >> the keys into the kernel implies a static set of predefined public keys, >> while the initramfs could load, in addition to the distro keys, keys >> from the UEFI databases. > > Kernel already loads all the keys from UEFI database and MOK into module > keyring. Small point of order: there are patches to allow the kernel to do this. None of those patches are upstream. josh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/