Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:58:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:58:07 -0400 Received: from pcp01179415pcs.strl1201.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.208.36]:59890 "EHLO mythical") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:58:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:02:41 -0400 From: Ryan Anderson To: Con Kolivas Cc: Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: [BENCHMARK] Corrected gcc3.2 v gcc2.95.3 contest results Message-ID: <20020923140241.GQ1425@mythical.michonline.com> Mail-Followup-To: Con Kolivas , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: <1032777021.3d8eed3d55f53@kolivas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1032777021.3d8eed3d55f53@kolivas.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1464 Lines: 33 On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:30:21PM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote: > Quoting Ingo Molnar : > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Con Kolivas wrote: > > > > how many times are you running each test? You should run them at least > > twice (ideally 3 times at least), to establish some sort of statistical > > noise measure. Especially IO benchmarks tend to fluctuate very heavily > > depending on various things - they are also very dependent on the initial > > state - ie. how the pagecache happens to lay out, etc. Ie. a meaningful > > measurement result would be something like: > > Yes you make a very valid point and something I've been stewing over privately > for some time. contest runs benchmarks in a fixed order with a "priming" compile > to try and get pagecaches etc back to some sort of baseline (I've been trying > hard to make the results accurate and repeatable). Well, run contest once, discard the results. Run it 3 more times, and you should have started the second, third and fourth runs with similar initial conditions. Or you could run the contest 3 times, rebooting between each run.... (automating that is a little harder, of course.) IANAS, however. -- Ryan Anderson sometimes Pug Majere - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/