Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:53:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:53:17 -0400 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:55563 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:49:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:57:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Andi Kleen cc: Subject: Re: [PATCH] nanosecond resolution for stat(2) In-Reply-To: <20020923184705.GA8195@averell> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1006 Lines: 24 On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Some drivers (like mouse drivers or tty) do dubious inode [mac] time > accesses of the on disk inode and without even marking it dirty. This is > likely a bug. No, it is intentional. At least some versions of "w" (maybe all) will use the tty access times to judge how long the tty has been idle. The point is that this is all information that is interesting (and useful), but not worth sending to disk - it is useful only as long as the inode remains locked in-core for other reasons, ie being in use. (It's not only "not worth it" to send to disk, but it would be positively wrong to even _try_ updating the disk with the access times, since we want these things to work even with a read-only /dev). Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/