Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:34:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:34:14 -0400 Received: from patan.Sun.COM ([192.18.98.43]:55783 "EHLO patan.sun.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:34:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3D90F78E.1060405@sun.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:38:54 -0700 From: Tim Hockin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020827 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Garzik CC: Brad Hards , Chris Friesen , Rusty Russell , linux-kernel mailing list , Alan Cox , cgl_discussion mailing list , evlog mailing list , "ipslinux (Keith Mitchell)" , Linus Torvalds , Hien Nguyen , James Keniston , Mike Sullivan Subject: Re: alternate event logging proposal References: <20020924073051.363D92C1A7@lists.samba.org> <3D90C4FE.3070909@pobox.com> <3D90D0FB.1070805@sun.com> <200209250832.35068.bhards@bigpond.net.au> <3D90F5D3.4070504@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1489 Lines: 44 Jeff Garzik wrote: > Brad Hards wrote: > >> I liked the /sbin/hotplug arrangement (aka call_usermode_helper). In >> fact, my plan was to add the call_usermode_helper call to the >> netif_carrier_[on,off] functions. Unfortuantely, I've been to too many >> of Rusty's talks, and know that calling a function that is only safe >> in user context is unlikely to be a good idea in >> netif_carrier_[on,off], which are more than likely running in >> interrupt context. > > > > You really want something where a userspace app can sleep on an fd, to > be awakened when link changes (or some other interesting event occurs) I tend to agree - I like either of the models: a bunch of little single-value files that can be polled and read or a single device_event file that a daemon reads and dispatches events (I like this one because the daemon is already written, just poorly named - acpid) For things like netif_carrier, poll() is probably best - the DHCP client can be fully self contained, and not need an eventd to alert it to a signal change. Of course, acpid does support UNIX socket connections from apps like DHCP.... -- Tim Hockin Systems Software Engineer Sun Microsystems, Linux Kernel Engineering thockin@sun.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/