Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 17:28:50 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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        Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
        Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/7] sched: set initial value of runnable avg for new
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On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:26:06PM +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
> On 05/06/2013 06:22 PM, Paul Turner wrote:
> >>> >> This is missing a scale_load() right?  Further: Why not put this in
> >>> >> __sched_fork?
> >> >
> >> > scale_load is not working now. Anyway I can add this.
> > I believe someone tracked down a plausible cause for this:
> > A governor was examining the values and making a mess with the scaled
> > ones.  I'm sorry, I don't have the post off hand.
> > 
> > You actually likely ideally want this _on_ for these patches; the
> > available resolution with SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT=10 disappears really
> > quickly and scaling by runnable_avg only further accelerates that.
> 
> Sorry for can not follow you. Do you mean the scaling by runnable_avg is
> better than scale_load?
> 
> In fact, after think twice of scale_load, guess better to figure out a
> good usage for it before enabling blindly.

He's saying its way too easy to run out of fractional bits with the current
setup; adding the 10 extra fractional bits provided by SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT is
advantagous and we should re-enable that.
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