Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757728Ab3EGGvW (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 May 2013 02:51:22 -0400 Received: from hell.mpoli.fi ([62.236.108.11]:40589 "EHLO hell.mpoli.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756634Ab3EGGvV (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 May 2013 02:51:21 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 3004 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 02:51:21 EDT Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 08:59:25 +0300 (EEST) From: Kim Enkovaara To: Lennart Sorensen cc: Rob Landley , Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton , James Courtier-Dutton , Robert Hancock , David Goodenough , debian-arm@lists.debian.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux on small ARM machines Subject: Re: device tree not the answer in the ARM world [was: Re: running Debian on a Cubieboard] In-Reply-To: <20130506203118.GK28282@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: References: <1367870518.18069.211@driftwood> <20130506203118.GK28282@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1146 Lines: 23 On Mon, 6 May 2013, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > I am getting the impression that we should ignore the cell phones given > they seem to be thoroughly ignoring their customers and everyone else > anyhow. If we then focus on the devices that perhaps do care to be around > for a while and supported, we might actually have a manageable problem. > Who knows maybe at some point the cell phone makers will smarted up and > realize there is a market in having happy long term customers and join in. ARM based SoC chips are quickly coming to industrial, automotive and telecom markets. On those markets maintainability is important, also the volumes are always not that great, and software engineers are a limited resource. There will be even some chips where the peripherials are the same in the SoC, just the core can be selected ARM vs. PPC for example and PPC side already uses DT. Regards, --Kim -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/