Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:44:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:44:18 -0400 Received: from beppo.feral.com ([192.67.166.79]:28167 "EHLO beppo.feral.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:44:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: James Bottomley cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: [ getting OT ] Re: Warning - running *really* short on DMA buffers while doingfiletransfers In-Reply-To: <200209291545.g8TFj2v09855@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1937 Lines: 37 > > I've already written one OpenSource SCSI mid-layer, given > > presentations on how to fix the Linux mid-layer, and try to discuss > > these issues with Linux developers. I just don't have the energy to > > go implement a real solution for Linux only to have it thrown away. > > Life's too short. 8-) > > What can I say? I've always found the life of an open source developer to be a > pretty thankless, filled with bug reports, irate complaints about feature > breakage and tossed code. The worst I think is "This code looks fine now why > don't you ". > > I can ceratinly sympathise with anyone not wanting to work in this > environment. I just don't see it changing soon. Justin, and all of us, are quite content to work in an Open Source environment I believe. It is the true inheritor of the original Unix philosophies. But it's difficult to commit to an effort that one often feels is a waste of time from the git go. This is one of the bootstrapping problems of the Linux environment: pretty much everyone expects you to produce a working prototype of a problem solution *before* people will accept it- how else can they evaluate it, hmm? But major amounts of work would have to be expended before you would do something like present 'CAM in linux' for review. That makes for a natural tendency to try and assess *beforehand* whether there's even a point in trying. I think that the subtext of Justin's comment, to put words in his mouth which can later deny if he likes, is that there's a sense that some of the solutions he'd propose/do would never be accepted, so why spend an effort sure to be wasted? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/