Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934229Ab3E1Nzl (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 May 2013 09:55:41 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:9554 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759087Ab3E1Nzk (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 May 2013 09:55:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 09:55:01 -0400 From: Vivek Goyal To: Michael Holzheu Cc: Zhang Yanfei , "Eric W. Biederman" , HATAYAMA Daisuke , Jan Willeke , Martin Schwidefsky , Heiko Carstens , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kdump/mmap: Fix mmap of /proc/vmcore for s390 Message-ID: <20130528135500.GC7088@redhat.com> References: <1369400889-11064-1-git-send-email-holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130524143644.GD18218@redhat.com> <20130524170626.2ac06efe@holzheu> <20130524152849.GF18218@redhat.com> <87mwrkatgu.fsf@xmission.com> <51A006CF.90105@gmail.com> <87k3mnahkf.fsf@xmission.com> <51A076FE.3060604@gmail.com> <20130525145217.0549138a@holzheu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130525145217.0549138a@holzheu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2652 Lines: 68 On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 02:52:17PM +0200, Michael Holzheu wrote: > On Sat, 25 May 2013 16:31:58 +0800 > Zhang Yanfei wrote: > > [snip] > > > For s390, if we put swap info into the elf header, This will > > change /sbin/kexec. But at this point, copy_oldmem_page is still > > doing the swap when we try to read the pages among [0 - OLDMEM_SIZE] > > and [OLDMEM_BASE - OLDMEM_BASE + OLDMEM_SIZE]. So removing the swap > > in copy_oldmem_page should be done at the same time. New kexec with > > old kernels would fail and old kexec with new kernels would fail too. > > > > So could you please explain more about the ""backwards compatible". > > And please correct me if I am wrong. > > Hello all, > > I think Zhang is right and in theory we are not backwards compatible > because with the ELF header fix old kexec tools would no longer work > with new kernels. > > But: > > For s390 we normally do *not* create the ELF header in the old > kernel with kexec. Instead the new kernel does all the memory and CPU > detection and creates the ELF header in the new memory. > > See also our current discussion with Vivek: > https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/5/24/164 > > The main reason why we did this for s390 was that we can have many > CPU hotplug events because of a s390 specific daemon called > "cpuplugd" (s390-tools). We wanted to avoid the kdump reloading with > kexec triggered by CPU and memory hotplug events. For s390 distributions > the kexec udev rules are disabled. > > Besides of the newmem mechanism, for completeness, we also implemented > the oldmem ELF header mechansim in kexec. But this is disabled > by default. > > See: "#ifdef WITH_ELF_HEADER" in kexec/arch/s390/crashdump-s390.c > > Currently no distribution uses the oldmem mechanism. Hi Michael, Mechanism to read from newmem is not there yet (your patches are still being reviewed) and you mentioned that no distribution is building kexec-tools with WITH_ELF_HEADER on s390. So how things are currently working for kdump on s390? > > Therefore, if necessary, IMHO we can switch to the ELF header memory > swap mechanism for s390 in the kernel. Of course we would then also > have to adjust the (disabled) kexec code. So are you saying that s390 is ready to switch to mechanism of creating ELF headers in first kernel by kexec-tools and new kernel does not have to preare ELF headers? Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/