Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:06:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:06:17 -0400 Received: from 62-190-217-232.pdu.pipex.net ([62.190.217.232]:38156 "EHLO darkstar.example.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:06:15 -0400 From: jbradford@dial.pipex.com Message-Id: <200210022019.g92KJSNr001989@darkstar.example.net> Subject: Re: your mail To: peloquin@us.ibm.com (Mark Peloquin) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:19:28 +0100 (BST) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: from "Mark Peloquin" at Oct 02, 2002 02:58:25 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1280 Lines: 24 > On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 17:09, Alan Cox wrote: > > Look at history - if such a mess got in, it would never get sorted. > > Instead of throwing around vague statements with little > context like "compost heap" and "such a mess", why don't > you spell out the specific design points of EVMS that you > disagree with. The advantages and disadvantages of > each point can then be discussed. Yeah, but he is right in any case - look how the IDE mess of 2.5.x, which, frankly, I don't believe was ever as bad as people seem to be saying it was, has put people off testing 2.5.x. Instead they are waiting for Linus to type mv linux-2.5.x linux-2.6.0 at which point they think that all remaining bugs will auto-magically correct themselves and the tree is one again safe to use. WRONG answer! Simply from the point of view of not wanting to 'scare off' people from a whole tree, (which is so rediculous, I think I'll go and patent it), and as a result get less testing, we're better off trying to stop weirdness from getting in. John. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/