Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933070Ab3FFMnn (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:43:43 -0400 Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com ([209.85.214.43]:51331 "EHLO mail-bk0-f43.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932817Ab3FFMnm (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:43:42 -0400 From: Tomasz Figa To: "luke.leighton" Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Linux on small ARM machines , devicetree-discuss , Stephen Warren , Linux Kernel Mailing List , debian-arm@lists.debian.org, "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , debian-kernel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:43:37 +0200 Message-ID: <1851164.HnXhGSdttW@flatron> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.4 (Linux/3.9.4-gentoo; KDE/4.10.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1733666.lHUBcfUXq9@flatron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1787 Lines: 41 Luke, On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:24:57 luke.leighton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > > I don't see any other solution here than moving all the Allwinner code > > to DT (as it has been suggested in this thread several times > > already), as this is the only hardware description method supported > > by ARM Linux. > i repeat again: please state, explicitly and unequivocably that you - > linux kernel developers - are happy that the reach of linux and > gnu/linux OSes is dramatically reduced due to this intransigent > position. > > or, tomasz, please state that you, tomasz, represent each and every > one of the linux kernel developers so that i do not need to keep > asking. I do not represent all linux kernel developers by any means. I am just stating current policy of SoC/board support maintained by ARM Linux, which is common for all Linux kernel devlopers, or at least ARM Linux kernel developers. Personally I am happy with numerous companies backing this policy and not making problems like this with Allwinner and I am really surprised that you are supporting a troublesome company like this. There are many other SoC vendors making low cost SoCs, like Rockchip, Boxchip, Telechips. Maybe they would be better candidates for being promoted as vendors of choice for hardware running free software? (Just saying, as I do not know anything about their view on this. There is a lot of cheap tablets built using their products as well.) Best regards, Tomasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/