Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754842Ab3FFUXN (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:23:13 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:51367 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753340Ab3FFUXK (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:23:10 -0400 From: Arnd Bergmann To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:22:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/3.8.0-22-generic; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Maxime Ripard , Olof Johansson , "devicetree-discuss" , Stephen Warren , "luke.leighton" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , "debian-arm" , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , Linux on small ARM machines , "debian-kernel" References: <51AFA6DD.3000202@wwwdotorg.org> <20130606172810.GE14209@lukather> In-Reply-To: <20130606172810.GE14209@lukather> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201306062222.53780.arnd@arndb.de> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:IvCsWYXAgm+8zNjq3Scb4aBn2dEGEOaSjiOKSJsjC4i FcZ6hewa3IwmcI1fDJSxqmbDPd3zyBHnHlPuaHpR8/5n/zrnJh pWK5/Tob811Tqs09DXuiTYzM3HHOep/RAqugTiaV+EUAcuhbB1 GillpDk2C9XXThtBI5ihVgGsKwGNHmr44MNa0Lp1aMmhU79QD9 XNhlWQrJil0osMj1epsWokHZHX4Qhpjq+dgwSSPjpqAViwcX1N CsM70MeedLDDmLzCI02BYGy9kYakmX4f3dOPQ3tVqRf1PVuUKo LNLXoC1i27zrO2/NfyxRtH3E6R2FRbuLnkl94eE+si8EbldZFg tnfD1feJJffpkKb0pexI= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1341 Lines: 26 On Thursday 06 June 2013, Maxime Ripard wrote: > So yes, Allwinner has an evil vendor tree (c), with a solution similar yet > inferior (because not generic enough) to the device tree, but they show > interest on going down the mainline road. Right, and of course there is nothing special about that, everybody starts out with they own even vendor tree (c), and as hardware support gets merged upstream, the diff gets smaller, even though the code in the mainline kernel is normally very different from what they started out with. Chances are actually that the Allwinner (A10/A13/A20, not A31) platform may end up being the first modern one that is fully supported upstream including a GPU driver, since it is one of the obvious targets for the reverse-engineering efforts. Ironically (given NVIDIA's reputation), the Tegra platform is the strongest competitor I see in that race at the moment. For all I can tell, things are progressing nicely, given that it's currently a volunteer effort. If anyone needs things to move faster, I'd recommend them to send money to free-electrons.com. Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/