Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756854Ab3FGSP3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:15:29 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com ([209.85.223.169]:38848 "EHLO mail-ie0-f169.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756902Ab3FGSPZ (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:15:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51B19769.4060706@free-electrons.com> References: <51AFA6DD.3000202@wwwdotorg.org> <1370469574.18839.33.camel@localhost> <1370475609.20454.44.camel@localhost> <1370477958.20454.68.camel@localhost> <51B085C6.3000605@gmail.com> <51B19046.5040401@gmail.com> <51B19769.4060706@free-electrons.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:15:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) From: "luke.leighton" To: Alexandre Belloni Cc: Linux on small ARM machines , debian-arm@lists.debian.org, devicetree-discuss , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ARM Linux Mailing List , debian-kernel@lists.debian.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2608 Lines: 64 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Alexandre Belloni wrote: > On 07/06/2013 10:06, luke.leighton wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic wrote: >>> luke.leighton wrote: >>>> 3 days remaining on the clock. >>> >>> what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out? >> no catastrophe, vladimir: all that happens is that an opportunity is >> lost, and the result of that is that the situation remains as it is, >> with a major soc vendor being divorced from and isolated from the free >> software community, who will continue to have to shoulder the >> frustrating and isolated burden of responsibility of reworking >> "over-the-fence" kernel patches as best they can with the limited >> resources that they have. > > I think the question was: what will be done in 3 days that cannot be > undone ? and you didn't answer that. apologies for not being clear. there is nothing that cannot be "undone". i trust that that answers the specific question you've asked. let me try to put it into "undo" words. this is about me (a messenger) offering you plural (the linux kernel community) an opportunity to "undo" the mess-that-is-perceived-to-be-the-case wrt one specific SoC vendor, named "Allwinner". let me try to put it another way. i cannot specifically state EXACTLY what will "be done", because i do not have authorisation to make that publicly known. i am trying hard to hint at what can be "done", and the deadline is monday 10th june 2013 to get a clear proposal in which will make its way to allwinner, by means that i cannot specifically tell you about because i do not have the specific authorisation or permission to tell you. does that point you in the right direction? can we please get on with taking advantage of this opportunity and discuss options that can be presented, instead of asking these kinds of questions? > I don't understand why your are > still stating that Allwinner will never be able to get code in the > mainline i didn't say that. apologies if that wasn't clear. > after Olof and Maxime told you that they are already working, > at least discussing with them. > apologies, i missed that. there's a lot i need to get up-to-speed, in very little time. i have some keywords to search for now i'll go find those messages. l. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/