Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932081Ab3FGS0l (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:26:41 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.218]:38876 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756210Ab3FGS0j (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:26:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:26:08 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux To: joem Cc: Linux on small ARM machines , "debian-arm@lists.debian.org" , devicetree-discuss , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ARM Linux Mailing List , "debian-kernel@lists.debian.org" Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) Message-ID: <20130607182608.GV18614@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <1370475609.20454.44.camel@localhost> <1370477958.20454.68.camel@localhost> <51B085C6.3000605@gmail.com> <51B19046.5040401@gmail.com> <1370616567.2433.20.camel@jm-desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1370616567.2433.20.camel@jm-desktop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1955 Lines: 42 On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 02:49:28PM +0000, joem wrote: > > > SoC vendors are free to join the discussion, and many SoC vendors are part > > > of the kernel community, so calling this unilateral is plain wrong. > > > > you're free to believe that, vladimir. i've explained why that > > hasn't happened, in prior messages. can we move forward, please? > > I prefer it if the "vladimir" troll (and fellow trolls) > make requests for one of us to make or do something instead of > constantly whining and wasting time. > > After all we are attached to funds and resources ready to > deploy if something sounds a good idea and gets a vote. > > To vladimir - please put your thoughts in a blog where it belongs. > If its important, I'm sure others would offer comment > and take you up on your thoughts. I think your position is confused. Everything that Vladimir (in his three posts) in this thread so far have been correct. Vladimir is not the one doing any trolling in this thread. Vladimir has not requested anything. He hasn't whined. He hasn't wasted time. He has stated the following in _three_ short succinct emails: (a) no one gets to impose stipulate timescales unless they're willing to financially sponsor the work. (b) the adopted position of the Linux kernel developers. Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we (Linux kernel developers) come up with proposals within three days so that Luke can act as a middle man between us and Allwinner, and is blaming the Linux kernel community for the situation with Allwinner. As you seem to have your facts wrong, I can only conclude that you are also trolling... I hope I'm wrong about that and you've just made an innocent mistake. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/