Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757210Ab3FGS42 (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:56:28 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180]:36306 "EHLO mail-ie0-f180.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756691Ab3FGS41 (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:56:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201306062222.53780.arnd@arndb.de> References: <51AFA6DD.3000202@wwwdotorg.org> <20130606172810.GE14209@lukather> <201306062222.53780.arnd@arndb.de> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:56:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) From: "luke.leighton" To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Maxime Ripard , Olof Johansson , devicetree-discuss , Stephen Warren , Linux Kernel Mailing List , debian-arm , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , Linux on small ARM machines , debian-kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2173 Lines: 47 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Thursday 06 June 2013, Maxime Ripard wrote: >> So yes, Allwinner has an evil vendor tree (c), with a solution similar yet >> inferior (because not generic enough) to the device tree, but they show >> interest on going down the mainline road. > > Right, and of course there is nothing special about that, everybody starts > out with they own even vendor tree (c), and as hardware support gets merged > upstream, the diff gets smaller, even though the code in the mainline > kernel is normally very different from what they started out with. *sigh* except if that idiot manager [whom we're keenly aware of] orders them to delete absolutely everything (find . -name '*sunxi*' | xargs git rm) and overwrite it with their internally-managed tree, causing absolute mayhem in the process... > Chances are actually that the Allwinner (A10/A13/A20, not A31) platform may > end up being the first modern one that is fully supported upstream including > a GPU driver, since it is one of the obvious targets for the > reverse-engineering efforts. yes. http://libv.livejournal.com/24735.html > Ironically (given NVIDIA's reputation), the > Tegra platform is the strongest competitor I see in that race at the moment. at $7.50 for a dual-core processor, and i am *not* going to tell you the quad-core price, i don't believe it can be considered to be a race, or even a competition. they're *OUT*, man. really. oh wait - did you mean for "1st to have fully supported upstream GPU driver"? that would be veery nice. > For all I can tell, things are progressing nicely, given that it's currently > a volunteer effort. If anyone needs things to move faster, I'd recommend > them to send money to free-electrons.com. i'll put that on the list of recommendations, but - again - i need a list of clear benefits and returns as to why that should happen. l. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/