Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751855Ab3FHJIx (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jun 2013 05:08:53 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com ([209.85.212.50]:40494 "EHLO mail-vb0-f50.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751583Ab3FHJIv (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jun 2013 05:08:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4247099.i8S79t0Pua@flatron> References: <20130607205940.4816fed5@skate> <4247099.i8S79t0Pua@flatron> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 10:08:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) From: "luke.leighton" To: Tomasz Figa Cc: Thomas Petazzoni , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree-discuss , Stephen Warren , Linux Kernel Mailing List , debian-arm@lists.debian.org, "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , Linux on small ARM machines , debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, Maxime Ripard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1444 Lines: 36 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > Now that the discussion went off from "you stupid kernel developers *lol*. i get that summary ["you said people were stupid!!!"] a lot. i don't quite understand where it comes from, otherwise i would stop doing it :) > adopted DeviceTree without even asking a closed company about their > proprietary solution, which does the same" to something a bit more > constructive, let me point some of the benefits. > [snip...] ahh, magic. these have gone straight into that proposal. i think the best ones - the gems - are the test-coverage and formally allowing public interaction. the test coverage because it will reduce the risk of errors in the silicon [you never know when developing both hardware and software where the bug might be] as well as reduce the development time and development costs. the public interaction (which i was going to ask thomas and maxime about, this morning) because it means a much faster feedback loop. i've been trying to think of ways to link "if you do X it will result in more sales and reduce risk" to the discussion, and i think you finally hit it tomasz, so thank you. l. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/