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Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 16:11:10 +0800
From: ShuoX Liu <shuox.liu@intel.com>
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To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Run callback of device_prepare/complete consistently
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On 2013-06-08 18:54, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> On Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:37:18 AM Yanmin Zhang wrote:
>> On Sat, 2013-06-08 at 03:52 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Saturday, June 08, 2013 09:36:03 AM Yanmin Zhang wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2013-06-08 at 03:30 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, June 07, 2013 06:16:25 PM Greg KH wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 08:42:12AM +0800, Yanmin Zhang wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 12:36 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 07, 2013 04:20:30 PM shuox.liu@intel.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dpm_run_callback is used in other stages of power states changing.
>>>>>>>>> It provides debug info message and time measurement when call these
>>>>>>>>> callback. We also want to benefit ->prepare and ->complete.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [PATCH 1/2] PM: use dpm_run_callback in device_prepare
>>>>>>>>> [PATCH 2/2] PM: add dpm_run_callback_void and use it in device_complete
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this an "Oh, why don't we do that?" series, or is it useful for anything
>>>>>>>> in practice?  I'm asking, because we haven't added that stuff to start with
>>>>>>>> since we didn't see why it would be useful to anyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And while patch [1/2] reduces the code size (by 1 line), so I can see some
>>>>>>>> (tiny) benefit from applying it, patch [2/2] adds more code and is there any
>>>>>>>> paractical reason?
>>>>>>> Sometimes, suspend-to-ram path spends too much time (either suspend slowly
>>>>>>> or wakeup slowly) and we need optimize it.
>>>>>>> With the 2 patches, we could collect initcall_debug printk info and manually
>>>>>>> check what prepare/complete callbacks consume too much time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But initcall information is for initialization stuff, not suspend/resume
>>>>>> things, right?  Doesn't the existing tools for parsing this choke if it
>>>>>> sees the information at suspend/resume time?
>>>>>
>>>>> We've been using that for suspend/resume for quite some time too, but not
>>>>> for the prepare/complete phases (because we still believe that's not really
>>>>> useful for them). 
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'll be handling patches changing code under drivers/base/power,
>>>>> I promise. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been doing that for quite a few years now ...
>>>> Yes, indeed. Power is one of the most important features on embedded devices.
>>>> Lots of smart phones don't really go through the full cycles of suspend-to-ram.
>>>> We are following the full steps of the suspend.
>>>
>>> But if you go through the code, you'll see that alomost no drivers actually
>>> implemet .prepare() and .complete().  Some subsystems do, but they really don't
>>> take too much time to execute.  Which means that your patches with
>>> initcall_debug will add quite a pile of useless garbage to the kernel log
>> Does that mean we need add more log levels around such info instead of just having or
>> not having?
> 
> Since we don't have any code in the tree that causes problems those patches are
> supposed to catch, I don't see why we need them in the tree.  Would it be
> viable to keep them out of the tree for the time being and re-submit once
> there is real need?

It's OK with me. I will keep them in my debug tree.
Thanks all.

Shuo
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