Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756243Ab3FMOqI (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:46:08 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:62422 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756794Ab3FMOqD (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:46:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:45:15 -0400 From: Don Zickus To: Frederic Weisbecker Cc: Peter Zijlstra , LKML , Steven Rostedt , "Paul E. McKenney" , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner , Li Zhong , "Srivatsa S. Bhat" , Anish Singh Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] watchdog: Boot-disable by default on full dynticks Message-ID: <20130613144515.GX133453@redhat.com> References: <1371045758-5296-1-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <1371045758-5296-5-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <20130612170316.GO133453@redhat.com> <20130613131057.GA15997@somewhere> <20130613140207.GW133453@redhat.com> <20130613142210.GD16339@somewhere> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130613142210.GD16339@somewhere> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1989 Lines: 45 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 04:22:12PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:02:07AM -0400, Don Zickus wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 01:03:16PM -0400, Don Zickus wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 04:02:36PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > > > > > When the watchdog runs, it prevents the full dynticks > > > > > CPUs from stopping their tick because the hard lockup > > > > > detector uses perf events internally, which in turn > > > > > rely on the periodic tick. > > > > > > > > > > Since this is a rather confusing behaviour that is not > > > > > easy to track down and identify for those who want to > > > > > test CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL, let's default disable the > > > > > watchdog on boot time when full dynticks is enabled. > > > > > > > > > > The user can still enable it later on runtime using > > > > > proc or sysctl. > > > > > > > > I thought we had a conversation awhile ago, where we agreed this was going > > > > to be fixed for 3.11? Didn't Peter find the patch and apply it to his > > > > tree? I am confused why this is still needed? > > > > > > We agreed on the patch but it hasn't been applied yet. I'm trying to get > > > a sane series of nohz patches before sending to Ingo. > > > > Peter, > > > > Where is this patch? > > Which patch? The old version of the current one? It was part of a previous series > that needed improvements so it hasn't been applied yet. I guess I am confused. I thought Peter said in an email awhile ago, that he found Stephan's patch (that converted perf to use hrtimers) and applied it to his tree. Are you saying it was unapplied because it needed improvements? Cheers, Don -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/