Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:22:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:22:01 -0400 Received: from mailsun.llgc.org.uk ([193.61.220.2]:8891 "EHLO mailsun.llgc.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:21:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3D9D6C84.F1736E15@llgc.org.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:25:08 +0100 From: Illtud Daniel Organization: Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Effrem Norwood CC: Kanoalani Withington , Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , jbradford@dial.pipex.com, jakob@unthought.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RAID backup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1811 Lines: 40 Effrem Norwood wrote: > In addition, HSM software costs > something (even if you write it yourself) on top of the tape infrastructure. > One customer of ours was quoted 40K per TB of HSM *software* alone. I've got 25TB uncompressed of HSM here, and it's cost us (ex VAT) roughly: ?10k for the first 1.6TB (on NT, DLT library) ?18k for the next 6.0TB (on NT, LTO library) ?45k for the next 18.0TB (on Solaris, LTO Library) ...for the software licencing alone. Plus about 10% pa. in support costs. You're looking at about 50-60% of the library cost for the HSM software to manage it (tapes are another thing). Is HSM really that difficult? It really is a racket, but it's not so much compared with the cost of re-producing the data (mainly digitized collections). I'd be happier about it if they were more reliable (libs and s/w). Disk arrays, on the other hand, would cost us a fortune in upgrading the cooling - we've had to do this once just because of the 3-4 TB of online storage we've got, and adding huge exchangers (and associated pipes) isn't something I want to do much of. Oh, and having spent much of last night and this morning dealing with multiple SCSI disk failures, and having seen about 5% of ours fail in a year, I'm rapidly seeing the light on IDE. -- Illtud Daniel illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk Uwch Ddadansoddwr Systemau Senior Systems Analyst Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru National Library of Wales Yn siarad drosof fy hun, nid LlGC - Speaking personally, not for NLW - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/