Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:41:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:41:20 -0400 Received: from s142-179-222-244.ab.hsia.telus.net ([142.179.222.244]:5629 "EHLO bluetooth.WNI.AD") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:41:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3D9DE325.8070504@WirelessNetworksInc.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:51:17 -0600 From: Herman Oosthuysen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RAID backup References: <1033735943.31839.12.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20021004132419.GF710@gallifrey> <3D9DA67A.8050608@comedia.it> <3D9DB44E.4090609@WirelessNetworksInc.com> <20021004171116.C31015@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2002 18:46:50.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[66311020:01C26BD6] To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2720 Lines: 64 Yep, a constant lowish temperature will also help a little, but I honestly think that in storage, a disk drive bearing will seize due to corrosion and lack of movement, before the electronics will fail. You can prevent bearing (and capacitor) problems by starting the drive up every 6 months for a while though. The effects of long term storage is experienced with military equipment, which frequently have to stay in storage for 40 or 50 years without ever really being used. The stuff in storage has to be cycled through the workshops to keep them operational, which is part of the high cost of peace. If disk drives are used for backup purposes, then I would suggest that they are rotated, so that they all remain in occational use, which should help to keep them alive. Of course, the first thing to fail, would be the connector of the removable drive bay and there is nothing you can do about that, except to make sure that the connectors are gold plated to begin with. I don't think that people have to worry too much about transportation vibration and shock to/from an off-site storage facility. These things are quite rugged when not spinning, so if you transport them in styrofoam boxes and don't drop them on the floor, they should be OK. BTW, putting a drive in storage for 40 or 50 years is not recommended for another reason: Obsolecense. In 40 or 50 years, you probably won't have a computer that can use these drives anymore! So, the only way to keep data long term, is to rotate the media continuously and upgrade as new technology is introduced. Cheers, Herman http://www.AerospaceSoftware.com Russell King wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:31:26AM -0600, Herman Oosthuysen wrote: > >>Self demagnetization used to be a problem of magnetic media and some >>components such as capacitors used to deteriorate with age, but I think >>that those problems have been solved decades ago, so equipment in clean >>and dry storage should last almost forever. > > > You missed "stable temperature" as well. Some capacitors still > "dry out" with age and heat, even with todays technology. > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Herman Oosthuysen B.Eng.(E), Member of IEEE Wireless Networks Inc. http://www.WirelessNetworksInc.com E-mail: Herman@WirelessNetworksInc.com Phone: 1.403.569-5687, Fax: 1.403.235-3964 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/