Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:26:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:26:46 -0400 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:41948 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:26:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:32:16 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: "David S. Miller" Cc: zippel@linux-m68k.org, gilbertd@treblig.org, lm@bitmover.com, tom_gall@mac.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New BK License Problem? Message-ID: <20021004173216.N835@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , "David S. Miller" , zippel@linux-m68k.org, gilbertd@treblig.org, lm@bitmover.com, tom_gall@mac.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20021004221639.GM710@gallifrey> <20021004.170451.27090459.davem@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021004.170451.27090459.davem@redhat.com>; from davem@redhat.com on Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 05:04:51PM -0700 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1959 Lines: 38 > Whether you like BK or not, it is the primary source management tool > used by Linus and others, it is even documented in the source tree as > such. > > Therefore, such a license change could change that, so it's a relavant > topic. And in the "for what it is worth" department, when we contemplate changes to the BKL, we've made a practice of discussing them here first. We try and keep it to a minimum, it's not exactly a popular topic, but we also make sure that we don't surprise anyone who is paying attention. I know that some of our license decisions have been, err, less than warmly received, but we are operating in good faith, we want to help the kernel folks, and that policy hasn't changed and won't change as long as I own more than 50% of BitMover stock (still do, working hard to keep it so). IBM recently became worried that they were violating the license and we are working out a waiver for them because it is obvious that their work is valued by the kernel community. It's a little weird because I frequently argue against the SMP/NUMA stuff that IBM does, but that's technical and BK licenses are business and I don't mix the two, that would be both insane and unethical. So rest assured, all you IBMers and anyone else who cares, IBM and BitMover are figuring out a way that all the IBM hackers can keep on using BK if that's what they want. One hacker, when told that they might not be able to use BK anymore, asked if she could buy a copy with her own money. I haven't been told who that was but when I find out, she gets a BK t-shirt and our undieing support. That's what we like to see :) -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/