Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934741Ab3FSMlb (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:41:31 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:11197 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S934022Ab3FSMl3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:41:29 -0400 Message-ID: <51C1A6F0.6000603@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:41:20 +0200 From: Paolo Bonzini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130514 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiao Guangrong CC: gleb@redhat.com, avi.kivity@gmail.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] KVM: MMU: document clear_spte_count References: <1371632965-20077-1-git-send-email-xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1371632965-20077-3-git-send-email-xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <51C196E9.2080508@redhat.com> <51C19BA6.2060501@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <51C19C4C.3000800@redhat.com> <51C1A34A.7080201@linux.vnet.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <51C1A34A.7080201@linux.vnet.ibm.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3402 Lines: 81 Il 19/06/2013 14:25, Xiao Guangrong ha scritto: > On 06/19/2013 07:55 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> Il 19/06/2013 13:53, Xiao Guangrong ha scritto: >>> On 06/19/2013 07:32 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >>>> Il 19/06/2013 11:09, Xiao Guangrong ha scritto: >>>>> Document it to Documentation/virtual/kvm/mmu.txt >>>> >>>> While reviewing the docs, I looked at the code. >>>> >>>> Why can't this happen? >>>> >>>> CPU 1: __get_spte_lockless CPU 2: __update_clear_spte_slow >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> write low >>>> read count >>>> read low >>>> read high >>>> write high >>>> check low and count >>>> update count >>>> >>>> The check passes, but CPU 1 read a "torn" SPTE. >>> >>> In this case, CPU 1 will read the "new low bits" and the "old high bits", right? >>> the P bit in the low bits is cleared when do __update_clear_spte_slow, i.e, it is >>> not present, so the whole value is ignored. >> >> Indeed that's what the comment says, too. But then why do we need the >> count at all? The spte that is read is exactly the same before and >> after the count is updated. > > In order to detect repeatedly marking spte present to stop the lockless side > to see present to present change, otherwise, we can get this: > > Say spte = 0xa11110001 (high 32bits = 0xa, low 32bit = 0x11110001) > > CPU 1: __get_spte_lockless CPU 2: __update_clear_spte_slow > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > read low: low= 0x11110001 > clear the spte, then spte = 0x0ull > read high: high = 0x0 > set spte to 0xb11110001 (high 32bits = 0xb, > low 32bit = 0x11110001) > > read low: 0x11110001 and see > it is not changed. > > In this case, CPU 1 see the low bits are not changed, then it tries to access the memory at: > 0x11110000. Got it. What about this in the comment to __get_spte_lockless: * The idea using the light way get the spte on x86_32 guest is from * gup_get_pte(arch/x86/mm/gup.c). * * An spte tlb flush may be pending, because kvm_set_pte_rmapp * coalesces them and we are running out of the MMU lock. Therefore * we need to protect against in-progress updates of the spte. * * A race on changing present->non-present may get the old value for * the high part of the spte. This is okay because the high part of * the spte is ignored for non-present spte. * * However, we must detect a present->present change and reread the * spte in case the change is in progress. Because all such changes * are done in two steps (present->non-present and non-present->present), * it is enough to count the number of present->non-present updates, * which is done using clear_spte_count. Paolo > BTW, we are using tlb to protect lockless walking, the count can be drop after > improving kvm_set_pte_rmapp where is the only place change spte from present to present > without TLB flush. > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/