Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:49:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:49:10 -0400 Received: from blowme.phunnypharm.org ([65.207.35.140]:36874 "EHLO blowme.phunnypharm.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:49:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:54:37 -0400 From: Ben Collins To: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New BK License Problem? Message-ID: <20021005175437.GK585@phunnypharm.org> References: <20021004140802.E24148@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004140802.E24148@work.bitmover.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2095 Lines: 46 > > (d) Notwithstanding any other terms in this License, this > > License is not available to You if You and/or your > > employer develop, produce, sell, and/or resell a > > product which contains substantially similar capabil- > > ities of the BitKeeper Software, or, in the reason- > > able opinion of BitMover, competes with the BitKeeper > > Software. > > > > Doesn't this affect maintainers all across the map that work for > > distros such as RedHat, SuSE, Connectiva, etc? Obviously these distros > > SELL as part of their respective products CVS and similar tools. Or > > even non-distro open source shops, you even resell CVS or the like in > > some way and you'd be in trouble. > > Distributions do not *SELL* CVS, they distribute CVS. We choose those > words with care for exactly that reason. All the clause is saying is > that if you are a competitor you don't get to use our product for free. > That it, in our opinion, a perfectly reasonable position to take. Larry, I develop for the Subversion project. Does that mean my license to use bitkeeper is revoked? I've also been wanting to use bitkeeper to create a Subversion mirror of the kernel repository, but I suspect that my usage falls seriously into this category, as my reasons for doing so are three-fold; allow access to the bkbits repo to folks who don't want to use bk, but with all the joys of an SCM (history, changesets, etc.); stress test Subversion against a real-world high-activity repo; promote Subversion. Would it be your intention that your license disallow my type of work? I think it does. Ben -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/