Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 20:25:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 20:25:24 -0400 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:16774 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 20:25:23 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 17:30:57 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Rik van Riel Cc: Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New BK License Problem? Message-ID: <20021005173057.J12580@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Larry McVoy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20021005081039.Z835@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 09:19:41PM -0300 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1460 Lines: 32 On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 09:19:41PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Larry McVoy wrote: > > If someone has a magic way of saying "you can use the software if and > > only if your use of it does not put BitMover at financial risk" > > The main complaint I've heard now is "if I develop a product > that competes with bitkeeper, won't I be able to grab software project available in BK> any more ??" > > A fix for this would be "make patches available from bkbits.net". bkbits.net is a free service. It costs us about $1600/month in cash to run it, that doesn't count any salaries, that's just fixed costs. If rsync and/or ftp didn't use about 100x as much bandwidth to do what BK does we'd have already done what you are asking. We simply can't afford it. But as I said to someone else, why doesn't someone register "nobkbits.net" and use BK to mirror the repos and then provide the tarballs/patches as you see fit. I'm quite happy to help someone set this up, I'm just not willing to foot the bill. The bandwidth costs will kill you. kernel.org could do this and that would be fine with me. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/